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laughing_tree ([personal profile] laughing_tree) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2017-04-09 08:33 am
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Astro City #42 - "The Deep Blue Sea"



'Western Detective Fiction thinks Dupin important as he was formative to the genre but does not consider him the paragon of the type. Imagine a world where we could say "Apollo is a more interesting character than Superman" rather than "Apollo is derived from Superman."' -- Kieron Gillen

'I’m trying to imagine a world in which Apollo is more interesting than Superman. No knock on Apollo. But yeah, in other forms, inspiration is a legitimate springboard to creation; in comics it’s looked at askance.' -- Kurt Busiek





















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[personal profile] laughing_tree 2017-04-11 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I think what he means is that in other genres and formats, new creations aren't weighed down by the fact they're inspired by older ones. People might call "Speed" "Die Hard on a bus" but they still think of it first and foremost as its own thing, not as "that Die Hard expy" or as off-brand Die Hard.
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[personal profile] domino_blue 2017-04-11 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair I think some things are weighed down more than others. I remember an anime called Andonah Zero which tried to compete against Gundam and while it was popular for a while it's not talked about in good regard. I just think Gillen thought of it only applying to comics is not true. Spider-man has a lot of Clark Kent in him early on but you rarely hear that he is a complete rip-off of him or burdened by that connection. I think a better argument is that with comics you can trace inspiration very easily since it's a young medium and there have been a lot of writings on it.
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[personal profile] laughing_tree 2017-04-11 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Spider-Man's been around for half a century, though. He's old enough and foundational enough that he's the one other newer characters get considered takes on.

I think there's definitely a perception in some parts that the Marvel/DC mainstays are the real stuff, and almost everything is just different creators' takes on them.
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