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Because a few people in the Rise of Arsenal Wins Award thread said they hadn't read any/much of RoA, and because the link in the earlier post has lots of macro-manips talking about dead cats, I thought I should link to the scene being referenced. Coulda sworn it was posted here, but if so I couldn't find it through the tags. (If someone can find it, I'll gladly take this post down.)
So, here are 2 pages from Rise of Arsenal #3. Behold the gritty realism of its depiction of drug abuse!
Here Roy has bought and sniffed some heroin. The freak-out begins with a happy reunion with an intact, alive Lian, then goes to the first page of this spread, in which Roy sees himself facing an army of Prometheuses (Prometheii?) bent on killing Lian again.

Standing in for the Electrocutioner in this freak-out is of course Bat!Dick, who is standing at the mouth of the alley in the missing page of this spread:

Roy is convinced Bat!Dick is there to take Lian!Kitty away from him, and Bat!Dick has to make with the Tough Love. Really Tough Love - like, get me to the emergency room type Tough Love.
The issue ends with Roy strapped to a table to detox cold turkey, talking with Zombie!Lian, and slowly going totally bugfuck insane in the membrane.
So, here are 2 pages from Rise of Arsenal #3. Behold the gritty realism of its depiction of drug abuse!
Here Roy has bought and sniffed some heroin. The freak-out begins with a happy reunion with an intact, alive Lian, then goes to the first page of this spread, in which Roy sees himself facing an army of Prometheuses (Prometheii?) bent on killing Lian again.

Standing in for the Electrocutioner in this freak-out is of course Bat!Dick, who is standing at the mouth of the alley in the missing page of this spread:

Roy is convinced Bat!Dick is there to take Lian!Kitty away from him, and Bat!Dick has to make with the Tough Love. Really Tough Love - like, get me to the emergency room type Tough Love.
The issue ends with Roy strapped to a table to detox cold turkey, talking with Zombie!Lian, and slowly going totally bugfuck insane in the membrane.
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Date: 2011-05-03 11:55 pm (UTC)So...Bats doesn't take him to a clinic or something? Cause I was under the impression that just strapping someone down like that and leaving them could kill them.
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Date: 2011-05-04 12:17 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-05-04 12:00 am (UTC)It probably doesn't appreciate being involved in this nonsense.
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Date: 2011-05-04 01:15 am (UTC)He's talking to his own foot. =D
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Date: 2011-05-04 12:54 am (UTC)Afterward, Slade and his team arrive at South Pacific Island to kill cult leader Drago over the arena production of blind warriors; however, his team, Arsenal, and Cheshire betray him, revealing that they had been working with Drago.[13] While Shade is captive, but Drago refuses to allow Roy and Cheshire leaves his decision, which angered Roy and Cheshire to attack Drago, as fails that Drago is signal handle. When Roy is imprisoned with Shade and confided in Roy about his and Drago past.[14][clarification needed]
Yes, "clarification needed" indeed.
But I am fantastically amused that Bizarro Arsenal is armed with a quiver of dead cats.
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Date: 2011-05-04 01:30 am (UTC)Roy: WHAT?!! And I'm the crazy one, here?
Dick: I know it sounds unbelievable, but...
Roy: Talia sleeping with JASON?!!!
Dick: Hey, we Robins have the Mojo... But never mind that! You're in danger! From Lian!
Roy: Oh, come on...
Later, outside of Gotham...
Roy: Ow... Mental note, listen to Dick, next time...
Damian: Why have you done this? Why did you trick me to break Harper out of jail and bring him here?
Lian: Oh, you silly... Because, I have chosen to dispense justice in my own way, with you at my side, as my BOYFRIEND! And, to prove your worthiness, you will KILL my useless daddy, here!
Roy: Lian, why? What's happened to you? You were taught BETTER than this! How could you... have DAMIAN as your BOYFRIEND?
Lian: It's the Robin Mojo. I can't resist.
Damian: I'm NOT her BOYFRIEND! And, isn't the more important concern your daughter wanting to kill you?
Roy: When you're a father, you'll understand. But, now that you mention it... Lian, why do you want to kill me?
Lian: Because you didn't AVENGE me! You didn't kill Promethius!
Roy: I would have, but Ollie had to hog the spotlight and do it, first!
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Date: 2011-05-04 02:02 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-05-04 02:05 am (UTC)Horribly drawn hallucinations, but eh.
God, at least good art wasn't wasted on this nonsense.
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Date: 2011-05-04 11:44 am (UTC)Not to mention Jason Todd, who's muuuuch better at it.
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Date: 2011-05-04 07:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-04 09:23 pm (UTC)TV shows and movies do the same thing, which I suppose works at turning more impressionable viewers away from ever trying addictive substances.
ER did that once. Carter said: "There's not a day goes by when I don't think about getting high. I think about it when I wake up in the morning, I think about it when I go to sleep at night, and I think about it all day."
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Date: 2011-05-04 09:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-04 09:39 pm (UTC)BATMAN #644 was remixed so Leslie Thompkins *didn't* let Stephanie Brown die, she just left Gotham out of different guilt. And this was *years* before Stephanie's death was changed. http://odditycollector.livejournal.com/72552.html
So, how could the dialogue RISE OF ARSENAL be changed for the better? Could it make the story good, despite Roy holding a dead cat?
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