Date: 2009-09-30 09:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com
Dr. Claire's introduction is repeated.

Date: 2009-09-30 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skjam.insanejournal.com
And perhaps we will now get on to the part where they step up to finding out what's really going on, already?

Date: 2009-09-30 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yaseen101.insanejournal.com
I sort of... like this, actually. I'm judging by these scans only.

Date: 2009-09-30 01:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] stig.insanejournal.com
Yeah, it's fun and silly and not grimdark and violent. Again, judging primarily by these scans...

Date: 2009-09-30 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thokstar.insanejournal.com
To be fair, a lot of the problems with this series (like the 5 main characters having 6 dimensions of personality combined, and two of those are "Lolita Canary is a lush" and "Lantern Boy creepily stalks Aquazon" ) aren't really noticeable in just these scans.

Date: 2009-09-30 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blakeyrat.insanejournal.com
Is the Twitter-esque postings like overlaid on the TV screen, or is that someone's "dialog"? Or both? I don't get what's supposed to be happening with that.

Date: 2009-09-30 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarodrussell.insanejournal.com
It appears to be Most Excellent Super Bat's internal monologue, although I just realized that with the "@" in front of his username, it may be someone talking to him.

Date: 2009-09-30 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thokstar.insanejournal.com
Those are all by most excellent superbat (hence mosexbat); it's a gimmick that's been used throughout the series.

Date: 2009-09-30 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blakeyrat.insanejournal.com
The @ normally indicates it's a message TO that username, not from it. But I suppose this is just another case of "did not do the research".

Date: 2009-09-30 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toasty_fresh.insanejournal.com
Yeah, that's what I assumed . . .

Date: 2009-09-30 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcbangle.insanejournal.com
OMG, I got that it was Most Excellent Superbat, but I kept interpreting mosexsbat as "Mo' Sex Superbat" until I read your comment!

Date: 2009-09-30 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarodrussell.insanejournal.com
Knowing MESB, it probably means both.

Date: 2009-09-30 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] menagerie.insanejournal.com
Ultimon-Alpha looks like someone out of Dark Horses' Comics Greatest World.

Date: 2009-09-30 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] majingojira.insanejournal.com
Ultraman-Expy that he is, he's taking off Dark Horse's "Hero Zero" who quit after fighting Godzilla.

No. Really.

I know this because that issue was collected in the Godzilla trades Dark Horse did.

Date: 2009-09-30 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarodrussell.insanejournal.com
I'll give Joe Casey his due on Dance: he's done an excellent job aping Grant Morrison's style, none of the Super Young Team feel any more authentic than any of Morrison's other one-dimensional characters.

How DC can have a book about a super-team of teenagers from Japan and not have Toyman show up is beyond my vast capabilities of logical processing.

Date: 2009-09-30 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thanekos.insanejournal.com
well, when Mon-El did his little world tour bit, he met... Dr. Light and Rising Sun in Japan.

so either they forgot about him, or he's relocated.

Date: 2009-09-30 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarodrussell.insanejournal.com
so either they forgot about him, or he's relocated.

I worry that he's been retconned into always being a robot of the original (second?) Toyman. I believe that was the last time Hiro showed up in a comic. Maybe his appearance in the Superman/Batman movie will change that, otherwise, there may not be a Hiro any more.

Date: 2009-09-30 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
Only perhaps because you missed the recent Superman issue which showed that Hiro the Toyman is nothing more than a self aware android toy created by the original Winslow Schott Toyman who has returned as the one "true" Toyman.

Hiro, just like the 1990's Toyman that ended up killing Cat Grant's son (That one was supposed to stand in for Winslow in prison), and one that looked like the one from the Super Friends, are artifical constructs.

It was one of those "Everything you assume about this character is wrong" issues, which would have been fine (childkiller Toyman is about the nadir of 1990's pointless grimdark IMHO) if they then hadn't gone and pulled exactly the same schtick with Brainiac and Starro the Conqueror within a few months.

Date: 2009-09-30 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarodrussell.insanejournal.com
Action Comics #865 was written by Geoff Johns. By now, I'm pretty much used to Geoff Johns trying to destroy everything I like about comics, so I'm just waiting for some writer with talent to realize Hiro is a worth while character, have him show up, and explain his absence by saying he borrowed the JLA's Power Girl robot for a few years and lost track of time.

Date: 2009-09-30 03:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xdoop.insanejournal.com
I don't think it was confirmed that Hiro was always a robot, and not that Schott had just created a robot duplicate.

Date: 2009-09-30 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
Why would he create a duplicate? The others are 100% his work for the entirety of their existences, and I didn't see anything to suggest that Hiro was any different.

Date: 2009-09-30 04:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xdoop.insanejournal.com
He didn't create Jack Nimball.

Date: 2009-09-30 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
As I read the story the implication was that yes he did. He had always been the only real, human, Toyman, the others had just THOUGHT they were real, when none of them were.

Date: 2009-09-30 04:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xdoop.insanejournal.com
I think it's ambiguous enough that if someone wanted to use Hiro, they could easily ignore or retcon the story.

Date: 2009-09-30 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
Ambiguity? In comics? Is nothing sacred? :D

Date: 2009-09-30 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khamelea.insanejournal.com
See, the thing with Hiro having been a self aware android instead of a real human all along is that it really doesn't need to destroy Hiro as a character. There's no need to ignore or retcon the story with this reveal, just have Hiro show up and be the same, just as an android. It'd give a new meaning to the name Toyman.

Date: 2009-09-30 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarodrussell.insanejournal.com
Or have Hiro, the human, show up and say, "You guys think Batman wouldn't know the difference?"

Date: 2009-09-30 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khamelea.insanejournal.com
I was working with the assumption (expressed upthread) that the story heavily implied that there was no human Hiro in the first place. For me, as I remember the story, either way works.

Date: 2009-09-30 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xlineartx.insanejournal.com
Your not sure the Justice League concerns themselves with tie-in products?

Lady, Booster Gold exists. Your argument is invalid.

Date: 2009-09-30 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarodrussell.insanejournal.com
Not to mention, we know Black Canary figures with her JLI costume exist.

Date: 2009-09-30 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
Once you HAVE saved the world a couple of times you get some leeway I imagine, if you start off expecting the same treatment BEFORE you've saved the world, that's more of an issue.

Date: 2009-10-01 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashtoreth.insanejournal.com
It's a subtle difference...

Sadly, the mindset that includes merchandising with heroing tends to live and die according to their popularity rating.

Date: 2009-09-30 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] retro_nouveau.insanejournal.com
"Aquazon", heh.

Date: 2009-09-30 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] majingojira.insanejournal.com
So, wait, their Ultraman Expy is dead?

Well, that's annoying. Mostly because he doesn't have the Ultra-Mother around to cast Phoenix Down on him.

Date: 2009-09-30 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misterfedex.insanejournal.com
I'm still trying to find something wrong with the name "Most Excellent Superbat" and I'm freaking failing. Perhaps I can gain the metahuman ability of being stinkin' rich!

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