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Date: 2021-06-17 01:46 am (UTC)New Mutants under Ayala's pen does look really interesting though, it's one of the books that's trying to flesh out the Krakoan experience on a more day to day level, and zooming on on some of the stuff that gets glossed over in the zoomed out Hickman vision of X-Men.
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Date: 2021-06-17 08:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-06-18 01:22 am (UTC)It feels like a general thing they are doing with this queering-up-the-X-men thing they are doing that they arent going for the "established/teased" pairings. (with a few exceptions) which is fine, nice to mix things up, but its honestly not what I expected.
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Date: 2021-06-18 09:32 am (UTC)I mean, I'm guessing some of it is because of Rahne's "de-aging", maybe? Even though we know she's actually the same age as Dani (or at least in the same area that there isn't a serious age gap), and the characters know that, unless Charles has been erasing everyone's memories again.
Unless Alaya's just a shipper.
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Date: 2021-06-18 12:17 pm (UTC)And I will be so happy if the writer is a shipper and is going to make this canon, I will be deeply annoyed if we're just getting teased/baited with Dani/Karma here
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Date: 2021-06-18 10:57 pm (UTC)Having her drawn younger than everyone else while still acknowledging she isn't actually is just odd, is all.
Not much for shipping, but I'm more for Dani / Rahne. Mainly because Rahne deserves some actually happiness, dammit.
Proper happiness, not happiness designed to lull her into a sense of false security before the writer smacks her over the head with a shovel AGAIN.
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Date: 2021-06-19 07:58 am (UTC)Let her eat some pussy Marvel. What is this, a DC cartoon?
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Date: 2021-06-18 12:16 pm (UTC)And no, Karma did have subtext with Dani as well. And with Kate but then this is Kitty Pryde we're talking about, she has lesbian subtext with every woman
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Date: 2021-06-17 02:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-06-17 09:00 am (UTC)So it's basically a less ableist version of Edward Nygma's situation in season two of Gotham
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Date: 2021-06-18 05:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-06-18 09:46 pm (UTC)I know Xavier is on his "All mutants will get a second chance" kick but I really feel like maybe he should speak to some of the more responsible mutants on the island and ask them to make sure that the man with an evil from beyond the dawn of time living rent free in his head is not allowed to lurk around the tiny children living on Krakoa
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Date: 2021-06-18 11:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-06-19 07:56 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-06-17 07:05 am (UTC)Meanwhile I'm really uncomfortable with the f-ing SHADOW KING being one of the few people to treat Gabby like a person.
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Date: 2021-06-17 09:08 am (UTC)... speaking of which, where are their other two siblings? Where've they gotten to?
and on the matter of Xi'an, can only imagine her reaction on being revived to find out she's still down a leg.
Which, given how the resurrection thing works, gives the bizarre image of them recreating her body exactly... and then cutting her leg off.
"Oh, come ON!"
"Whit? You've got the same number of legs you had before."
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Date: 2021-06-17 02:28 pm (UTC)unfortunate implications
And if they wanted to do a story exploring that idea it would be better if a disabled writer was the one handling it
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Date: 2021-06-17 09:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-06-17 09:45 pm (UTC)Since he stole Fantomex's body during a series of events where he had to fight Proteus and the Shadow King
Comics are fuckin weird
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Date: 2021-06-17 11:31 pm (UTC)No one rushed over to break his legs again when Lilandra stuffed him in the clone she just happened to have handy.
I know the war trauma is a huge part of, say, Forge's story but there's no real reason he can't have all his limbs next time he comes back.
Heck, Karma's missing leg is a VERY recent development and I doubt a lot of people know about it.
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Date: 2021-06-18 10:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-06-18 12:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-06-18 02:46 am (UTC)But.
This does raise a question based off my own experience. Some people's genetics lead to things that require surgical interventions to let them live or have quality of life.
I was somewhat physically off my whole life until my pain, appetite, balance, ability to sleep, vision, etc. got much worse in my 30s because it turned out that something I was born with was leading my brain to slide down into my spine, compressing it. (Symptoms of Chiari I malformation either hit you in your 30s or your childhood.) If I didn't get brain surgery, I would gradually become paralyzed and die, if my inability to be hungry much or sleep for more than three cumulative hours a night didn't destroy me first. The surgery was not anywhere as successful in restoring me as my surgeon led me to believe--he claimed that was my fault--and I've been disabled and in chronic pain ever since, though the first year after the surgery was the absolute worst.
On Krakoa, if I died I'd be resurrected with the same condition that would require eventual brain surgery and I'd have to wonder when or if it would smite me again.
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Date: 2021-06-18 08:25 am (UTC)It's not something that has an easy answer or an answer that could be applied to every person in every situation.
But that is why I think that a story about what, if any, changes someone might want made to their body if they were to be resurrected would be something best handled by someone who can directly relate to a person in that situation to avoid the risk of it coming off as ableist or insulting
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Date: 2021-06-19 07:14 am (UTC)I'm not "obviously," "visibly" disabled unless I'm having a really bad day and it shows in my body language and walk, which is its own barrel of problems since I get left out sometimes even by people who should know better. (Like doctors.) Thus, it would surprise me more if somebody did get this whole thing right in the comics, but this is one of the things about Krakoan life that I really hope somebody tries to address.
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Date: 2021-06-19 07:55 am (UTC)And yeah I think it could make for an interesting story to tell making use of the new status quo on Krakoa and exploring what it means for situations like this
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Date: 2021-06-17 03:42 pm (UTC)The mutants have defeated death itself, they also have cures for all sort of diseases. They die for the lulz and they keep bragging about how they evolved beyond human weaknesses. Yet they seem unable to do anything for No-Girl or Chamber or Karma.
This is a suspension of disbelief I can accept for characters who have an iconic look. If No-Girl, Glob, Chamber, or even Callisto and Forge got a whole organic body with no missing parts, they would lost part of their individuality.
But In Karma's case, I wouldn't say that this justification works. The ugly metal leg is not part of her iconic look. So the idea that she either asked to be brought back without her organic leg or that she cut it off for the sake of the Holy Representation is quite puzzling.
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Date: 2021-06-17 06:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-06-17 11:39 pm (UTC)Also, did Wolverine actually consent to having all that metal pumped into his body again?
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Date: 2021-06-18 09:18 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-06-18 06:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-06-19 11:51 am (UTC)IRL the reason is of course that it's part of his character design so of course they're going to keep it but it can be explained in universe as well this way
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Date: 2021-06-19 03:05 pm (UTC)Let’s say, hypothetically, there’s this one trans mutant. She was born a man but isn’t really comfortable in her own body and can’t really afford to transition, but she wants to be biologically female. If she dies and then gets resurrected by the Five, is she going to be brought back in a body she’s actually comfortable in and can identify with, or will she brought back in her regular body dysphoria and all?
If someone has a debilitating illness or disability they don’t want or actively harms them, are they resurrected with that illness and/or disability still prevalent? Xavier’s got everyone’s minds on backup, he’d surely be able to judge these things on a case by case basis.
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Date: 2021-06-19 03:14 pm (UTC)These are interesting questions that it would be very cool to see explored using the very unique situation that is going on in Krakoa. I think it's very cool and interesting when sci fi/fantasy stories and settings use magic or technology we don't have access to in our world to explore questions like this :)
I will say that like with the question of "What if a disabled mutant wants to have a body that does not have that disability" the question of "How should resurrection handle the issue of a transgender mutant who was born in a body that gives them dysphoria" is one that should be handled by a writer who can personally relate to this question
Not saying that it's impossible for a cisgender writer to write a trans character well of course
But I think a story dealing with these themes could easily be fucked up if it's written by a writer who isn't transgender
And I think in Chamber's case the answer to your question would depend when you asked him. When his mutation first manifested he'd probably tell you he couldn't stand it. After spending time with Gen X and realising that he could be accepted this way but that a lot of the world was full of bigots who refused to do so I think he'd tell you that he wasn't mad about how he looked he was mad that the world had such a problem with it
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Date: 2021-06-17 01:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-06-17 02:27 pm (UTC)