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Garth Ennis' "Hitman" featured many memorable side characters. One of particular note was Bueno Excellente, "an obese, sweaty, and bald Latino in an overcoat who 'defeats evil with the power of perversion.' Generally, the only thing he says will be "Bueno", often preceded by a creepy chuckle."
Garth Ennis' "Hitman" featured many memorable side characters. One of particular note was Bueno Excellente, "an obese, sweaty, and bald Latino in an overcoat who 'defeats evil with the power of perversion.' Generally, the only thing he says will be "Bueno", often preceded by a creepy chuckle."
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Date: 2009-09-14 07:12 am (UTC)Thing about Ennis doing this kind of stuff: the over-the-top stuff is almost always in the service of comedy(except in CROSSED where it's pure horror, but it has its moments as well), and he does it better than a lot of other writers who try to imitate him. I think of Ennis as being in the same spirit of Parker & Stone, or some of the more extreme Python, or in HITMAN, PREACHER's seedy, beer-drinkin' urban third cousin, "the Young Ones," totally(reading HITMAN I often thought of it as where Ennis put all the ideas too sleazy and ridiculous for PREACHER, like it was his notebook, but that was fun). Or further back, Terry Southern or Michael O'Donoghue. Or shows like DEADWOOD.
It's Ennis' intelligence that makes it work, whereas Millar, when he tries, seems to be a lot more, "Here, have this, fucking fanboy! You like it? I'll make it worse! Mm, lovely money!" I don't know, but having had some actually-Irish friends, including two from Cork and one from Belfast(two of them women), I'd suggest that where Ennis lives this stuff is very much a laugh. They likes their gross-out, profane, over-the-top and pitch-black humor. And "fuck" and the c-word(both of them) are totally punctuation. I always took it as kind of a dare to relax. Because people who have lived through real problems, I guess, don't feel so threatened by words and pictures. That was certainly how it felt when I found myself much more easily shocked than them, whereas among Americans I have a high threshold of moral offense. Then you hear an Irish girl make a joke about rape, and you wonder if you're more sheltered or more aware. It's a weird feeling.
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Date: 2009-09-14 07:22 am (UTC)I really don't want to get into a whole argument here, but that's not really an approach that's going to endear me to ideas like Bueno Excellente. Okay, so nothing will ever endear me to Bueno Excellente, but still.
I really don't think Deadwood or the comedy stylings of Monty Python have anything in common with the repulsive stylings of Garth Ennis, except that the former has foul language.
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Date: 2009-09-14 06:52 am (UTC)D:
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Date: 2009-09-14 09:11 am (UTC)Also, Ennis really didn't seem to like Kyle, I mean even compared to his usual irreverent and dismissive portrayal of most superheroes (except Superman).
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Date: 2009-09-14 09:53 am (UTC)Ennis admitted in an editorial for Bleeding Cool a couple of weeks ago that one of the reasons he doesn't take American superheroes terribly seriously is that he grew up reading Judge Dredd. Superheroes agonize about maybe killing one guy; Dredd vaporizes five hundred million and gives no fuck.
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Date: 2009-09-14 03:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-09-14 03:22 pm (UTC)True story: Ennis held a contest to come up with the worst idea for a superhero name, with Green Lantern as the baseline. The first response (and immediately accepted winner) was Dogwelder, who Ennis did a good job creating and putting into Hitman,
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Date: 2009-09-14 04:05 pm (UTC)or something like it has to.
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Date: 2009-09-14 03:13 pm (UTC)I then had to go back and look at everything else and realize that pretty much everything before it was almost as bad, if not worse, than what set me off. That's sort of Ennis for me in a nutshell. You go along enjoying it until you get offended once and then you realize the entire thing was offensive from the start and you've shown you're not as high minded as you thought for enjoying it.
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Date: 2009-09-14 07:51 pm (UTC)Wait. Does this mean Bueno Excellente was fridged? He hasn't shown up in a long while... and well... he slept with Kyle.
Aheh.
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Date: 2009-09-14 08:38 pm (UTC)Could he be a little more repetitive?
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Date: 2009-09-15 02:15 pm (UTC)My many previous Ennis dislikes aside (like how much Preacher sucked after all the hype), I try to be open minded. Truth be told, my library has a Constantine trade by Ennis that I just read and it was the first Ennis story I actually enjoyed (where he ends up breaking up with Kit).
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Date: 2009-09-15 11:59 pm (UTC)