Well yes, I'm pretty sure that changing the future will have unforeseen consequences by definition. Of course, the thing about the Butterfly Effect is that it applies to every butterfly, everywhere--all our actions could have massive consequences down the road. There's nothing especially dangerous about acting on Ulysses' predictions as far as that goes.
She gets addressed as "commander" here, too--is that a function of her being in command of something, or did she get demoted? Because I thought she was a colonel, or at least a major. I remember her dropping a remark about how technically she outranks Steve Rogers.
Disclaimer: I am not an expert on the command structure of the United State military.
Carol holds rank in the... US Air Force, still? I believe in that context Commander refers to the commanding officer of a unit, and is technically an appointment, rather than a rank. Not sure whether it would be appropriate to refer to her as commander, rather than by her rank (Colonel, last I knew).
The rank of "Commander" in the US Navy is still above that of a US Army/Air Force/Marine Corps Captain, since the equivalent rank in those services is a Lieutenant Colonel. You may be a little confused since the naval rank of "Captain" is a rank above that of Commander and is actually the equivalent of an Army/Air Force/Marine full Colonel.
Now as far as I remember Carol is either a Major or Lieutenant Colonel in the US Air Force. If she transferred to a service using naval ranks (which is a typical sci-fi trope regarding spacefaring armed forces), then her equivalent rank would be either Lieutenant Commander (Major) or Commander (Lieutenant Colonel). So addressing her as "Commander Danvers" isn't that far off.
In this context, though, I think it's used to denote her being commanding officer of SWORD, rather than her actually rank in the military.
I will readily admit that the rank hierarchies in various branches of
service confuse me. Thank you for clarifying. And all of that does make
sense.
I think, when I was reading this, in the back of my head I was connecting
it to something where she takes somebody to task for addressing her with a
lower and lower rank every time he speaks to her, a politician or diplomat
who's trying to get her goat. I wondered if this was more of the same, or
proper address.
One of Gyrich's central functions is to *never* *ever* learn his lesson. Even when he's in a cell after fucking up so badly he nearly precipitated an alien invasion that would have turned large parts of the earth into a charred wasteland he's firmly convinced that every move he made was necessary and The Right Thing To Do.
Well, he did. And then he promptly un-learned it in time for Avengers: The Initiative, where he: Covered up the death of a teenaged recruit. Had teenaged recruit's corpse dissected. Had teenaged recruit cloned. Sent one clone to live with teenaged recruit's father so he wouldn't realise his son's brains had been blown out. Had the recruit who accidentally killed said teenager confined to a mental institution, with his agents making sure she'd never be released / get any sort of effective counselling for what happened. Created another clone of aforementioned teenaged recruit who went on a violent rampage and killed several people. And then when everything was over tried to sweep it all under the rug and take no responsibility for his fuck-ups whatsoever.
Why this man isn't in a small, dark confined space where he's chained to the floor is one of life's great mysteries.
Henry Peter Gyrich. He's there just to create conflict or annoy heroes with rampant bureaucracy. Or maybe just an idea of what "rampant bureaucracy" is. And yet they keep him around because, well, he can't be THAT bad... Can he?
There was a time when he was at least competent, it's just that he was an unlikeable jackass. It's been a while since a writer went with that approach though.
In fairness though, when was the last time we saw a character like Captain Marvel hanging out with someone who isn't a superhero. In modern Marvel comics superheroes are basically a weird, insular little community.
I'm fascinated by how much more sense everyone is making in the tie-in issues than in the event book itself. Why, it's almost as if the writers of those books understand the characters better!
I'm not saying they should never do event books, but I feel like if you're writing one, how characters act should be determined by consulting with their book's writers, not editorial fiat.
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Date: 2016-06-29 03:15 pm (UTC)though, on the serious... he traffics in hate... and there is always someone there to hate...
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Date: 2016-06-30 06:41 am (UTC)Honestly though, i've missed him. Unlike Hill and even Fury, Gyrich is at least open about being a dick. He never really tries to hide it.
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Date: 2016-06-29 09:37 pm (UTC)Carol holds rank in the... US Air Force, still? I believe in that context Commander refers to the commanding officer of a unit, and is technically an appointment, rather than a rank. Not sure whether it would be appropriate to refer to her as commander, rather than by her rank (Colonel, last I knew).
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Date: 2016-06-29 09:41 pm (UTC)The answer is appreciated, and makes some sense. Thank you.
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Date: 2016-06-30 03:10 am (UTC)Now as far as I remember Carol is either a Major or Lieutenant Colonel in the US Air Force. If she transferred to a service using naval ranks (which is a typical sci-fi trope regarding spacefaring armed forces), then her equivalent rank would be either Lieutenant Commander (Major) or Commander (Lieutenant Colonel). So addressing her as "Commander Danvers" isn't that far off.
In this context, though, I think it's used to denote her being commanding officer of SWORD, rather than her actually rank in the military.
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Date: 2016-06-30 04:19 am (UTC)I will readily admit that the rank hierarchies in various branches of service confuse me. Thank you for clarifying. And all of that does make sense.
I think, when I was reading this, in the back of my head I was connecting it to something where she takes somebody to task for addressing her with a lower and lower rank every time he speaks to her, a politician or diplomat who's trying to get her goat. I wondered if this was more of the same, or proper address.
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Date: 2016-06-30 01:39 pm (UTC)And then he promptly un-learned it in time for Avengers: The Initiative, where he:
Covered up the death of a teenaged recruit.
Had teenaged recruit's corpse dissected.
Had teenaged recruit cloned.
Sent one clone to live with teenaged recruit's father so he wouldn't realise his son's brains had been blown out.
Had the recruit who accidentally killed said teenager confined to a mental institution, with his agents making sure she'd never be released / get any sort of effective counselling for what happened.
Created another clone of aforementioned teenaged recruit who went on a violent rampage and killed several people.
And then when everything was over tried to sweep it all under the rug and take no responsibility for his fuck-ups whatsoever.
Why this man isn't in a small, dark confined space where he's chained to the floor is one of life's great mysteries.
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Date: 2016-06-29 10:29 pm (UTC)He doesn't read comics, does he?
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Date: 2016-07-03 02:10 am (UTC)I'm not saying they should never do event books, but I feel like if you're writing one, how characters act should be determined by consulting with their book's writers, not editorial fiat.