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From:

cainofdreaming

Aren't A.I.'s currently at war with humanity? Why would companies be building more of them?

From:

tugrul

Was Machinesmith shown to have an alliance as well?

From:

nyadnar17

I like this. I really like this. Damn marvel is putting out so much good stuff they even got time to put out stuff I have always wanted I didn't even know I wanted.

From:

tigerkaya

I would have thought Machinesmith higher up in the villain ladders of B-list given his skills, shame. I like the art art though.

From:

q99

Well, it sounds like he's being legit *and* legally restricted from using a lot of his skills, and he's sticking to that.

If he wanted to be villain again, yea, he could go higher up pretty easy.

From:

bruinsfan

Yeah, the last time I saw him he'd undone the Super Soldier Serum's effects on Cap and was pretty actively malevolent.

From:

icon_uk

IIRC Machinesmith is more of a program than a person, I can imagine more than one version of him being around at the same time. Maybe one decided to go legit.

From:

randyripoff

Kind of like Grundy in Starman

From:

tugrul

Is this the same Machinesmith that tricked Danger into stealing her body and then got locked up in a virtual reality prison?

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violetclm.livejournal.com

"the F.F.... nobody's even taking my calls."
Sheesh. So quick are they to forget the time they hired him as a technical consultant for their time machine and even had him download Doctor Doom's matter transference computer into it, and he stuck around and traveled to some other realities with them and fought the monster in Lyja's egg. Some people get no respect.

From:

beyondthefringe

Worse, they're forgetting the time they asked him to lead a substitute team in their absence, during which time he saved the day and beat up Doctor Doom.

My theory: Tony, being a dick at the moment, placed software in the FF and Avenger systems, which rejects his calls so no one even knows he tried to get in touch.

From:

thanekos

One issue of the wrap-up to Superior Iron Man will just be Scott and Matt putting the boots to Tony for about 18 pages.

From:

mrstatham

My theory is that this is post-Secret War. Just like the Captain Marvel book launched prior to AVX, but was actually set immediately after that event.

From:

gnarll

This Ant-Man comes across as having a lot of Eric O`Grady in him. Just the Lang surface with Stature etc.

From:

icon_uk

He's a bit less reformed than he's been shown being, but at his worst moment, he's still nowhere near the level of douchebag that O'Grady was on his best day.

From:

silverhammerman

Argh, I forgot to pick this issue up. I was pretty sour on this series to start with due to the inevitable retconning to make Cassie more like the movie version and undo Ant-Man's character development from FF, but now that that stuff's out of the way I've found it quite enjoyable.

Nick Spencer showed himself to be great with the low rent side of the Marvel universe in Superior Foes of Spider-Man and this series taps into that affinity really well. Plus, there's always something nice about seeing sadsack supervillains who've been ignored for years get a sympathetic portrayal.

From:

mrstatham

I'm still really not liking the loser-stink they've slathered all over Scott for this series. It just reeks of Marvel not even subtly aligning the universe alongside the MCU a little more, something I don't doubt we'll see more of after Secret Wars.

From:

aperturedreams

Agreed. Ant-Man feels like Marvel's Aquaman these days, in that they're trying to prove he's a great character and not just a joke but actual comic fans never thought of these characters as a joke in the first place.

From:

halloweenjack

actual comic fans never thought of these characters as a joke in the first place.

Actual comics fans also didn't make Ant-Man a successful solo character. Neither did they make Guardians of the Galaxy successful; the movie, which recast them as lovable losers, did that beyond anyone's wildest dreams. That's what this is all about.

From:

aperturedreams

Seeing as the movie isn't out yet, I don't see how that's true. Plus I never mentioned guardians of the Galaxy, as I don't feel the same way about them.

From:

beyondthefringe

This is looking better and better. I may have to pick up the trade when it comes out. I like how he's working at making the Grizzly a decent schlub of an ex-villain. No more revenge-murders for him! I've always enjoyed it when the lesser villains get a chance to shine.

Until proven otherwise, though, I'll pretend that this is a rogue copy of Machinesmith's personality... a secondary incarnation, since the real one is a lot more devious and effective and would never end up in these circumstances. And for him, it's plausible he accidentally split off at some point.

Now I want to see what other ex-villains/villains anon members show up.

From:

rainspirit

Regardless of the issue itself, I love the cover. I'm sure there's some other 80's homage happening that I'm not getting (Back to the Future?) but the animal mask reminds me of Hotline Miami.

From:

lencannon

It's aping Miami Vice, whose 80s Miami aesthetic is definitely going ot have a lot of Hotline Miami crossover.

From:

philippos42

It's a very direct reference to the sort of promo images Michael Mann's TV show Miami Vice had. The poses in particular resemble the image here: https://www.isaachayes.com/news/miami-vice-2251
But the car looks like one of Sonny's later cars.

Edited Date: 2015-04-21 05:35 am (UTC)

From:

shadowpsykie

so why is he being blackballed

From:

deh_tommy

Scott annoyed Tony Stark after failing to show up for his new job as a security guard in Stark Industries, and later used the Iron Man likeness without his permission so Scott could promote his own business.

One should probably keep in mind that Tony is still invertedafter the events oF AXIS.

From:

icon_uk

Though, depressingly, I'd have no problems believing the pre-inverted Tony Stark would do the same thing.

From:

burkeonthesly

He beat up Doctor Doom and made everybody who's failed to do that look bad?

From:

lieut_kettch

Who's the "her" Grizzly's talking about? Cassie?

From:

silverhammerman

I I haven't read this issue yet, but yeah, Cassie Lang got kidnapped at the end of the previous issue. Personally I'm hoping that she has an active role in the rescue beyond being a damsel in distress, because the complete disregard of her superhero career is one of this series' few sour notes.

From:

lieut_kettch

Well, looking at the security measures Scott mentions, it may be possible that they're meant to keep Cassie IN as much as to keep Scott out. Though how someone could get the drop on a former Young Avenger and graduate of Camp Hammond is another thing.

From:

thanekos

To be fair, her nabber was Crossfire, former CIA operative.

From:

bradygirl_12

It never gets old that a guy in an Ant-Man costume and another in a bearskin walk around New York and nobody blinks an eye. ;)

Edited Date: 2015-04-18 03:22 pm (UTC)

From:

burkeonthesly

I think they're in Miami, aren't they? All the palm trees and such. (In which case, Grizzly must smell like a gym sock.)

From:

bradygirl_12

You're right! But my comment still applies. Miami dwellers are just as blase as New Yorkers, that's all. ;)

Human beings are remarkably adaptable. After the first flurry of excitement over seeing flying heroes and such, their reaction must be, "Ho hum! Superman's flying by. Must be Tuesday. :)

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