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"Back when we started, there was nothing like Astro City on the stands, but since then there’ve been a lot of books that take an internal, reflective approach, or explore what it’s like to live in this kind of world. I like to think we’ve had some influence on the industry (though certainly it ain’t all us!), but it means we’re telling stories now in a different world, where Astro City isn’t as different as it once was. So we’re eager to see what else we can do, how we can make it all different still, and surprise people again the way we did in the early days." -- Kurt Busiek











One of her brothers had joined the army, and another had enrolled at Cornell on scholarship.









But only a week after that, she was seriously injured in battle with the Unholy Alliance...



Date: 2015-02-13 04:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sagrada
C-Crackerjack, stop being serious. You're scaring me, man! My world is being flipped upside down! You're not supposed to be this knowledgeable or competent, this is against everything I know about C-grade superheroes! This is against the narrative! This is treason!

Also, on a less jokey note, dat ass in the last panel.

Date: 2015-02-16 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] shadur
It's not Grayson-grade ass, but then that's a high, high bar to clear...

Date: 2015-02-13 05:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
This is edging remarkably close to the "big speech" Daredevil gave to the Punisher's protege.

https://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/3742685.html

Mark Waid looked at it one way, while Kurt Busiek is looking at it another way: what is a hero without "the drive?" Do "family murdered by criminals" work best as the drive?

Batman never quits because Thomas and Martha Wayne are always going to be dead. Spider-Man never quits because Uncle Ben is always going to be dead. Etc. And flipping it again, Batman and Spider-Man can always save the day, but their parents/parental figures are always going to be dead and nothing can change that.

So some heroes need the whole "murdered loved ones + massive guilt complex" to work.

Date: 2015-02-13 07:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
On the flip side, one thing I quite liked about Byrne's revamp of Superman was that Clark's upbringing was sufficient to motivate him into heroism without any tragedy being required.

Date: 2015-02-13 09:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
It's kind of the sticking point of Spider-Man, frankly. The lesson his uncle drilled into his head SHOULD have been enough, but he instead went for personal gratification until the sainted Ben was killed off to punish Peter as if he were a character from Tales of the Crypt.

Date: 2015-02-14 10:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Which is why Batman hates Superman and the rest of the Justice League.

All right, that isn't true. But it can sure seem like it sometimes.

Date: 2015-02-13 07:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] junipepper
Maybe, but the two-book arc overall is more about what you do when you absolutely do still have the drive (Jack) and/or you don't know what the hell else you could do with yourself (Quarrel) but your body inevitably starts slowing down. She's 48 this year, by her own account, so that's a thing.

Date: 2015-02-13 09:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Ah, I like the interpretation of Batman where he does what he does not because he feels guilty for their deaths, but because he doesn't want it to happen to anyone else.

This is what differentiates Batman from the Punisher, the Punisher is a blunt instrument who only has one way to dealing with crime: killing those responsible when it occurs. Batman, written correctly, not only cares about the victims, but also the criminals he fights enough that he wants them to get better (if they're mentally ill) or financially stable (if they turned to crime out of poverty).

If the Punisher found a gang of men robbing a warehouse, he'd probably kill or maim them. If Batman were in the same situation, he'd probably judge them by a person by person basis to see whether THEY can be saved too.

Saving the bad guys is one of the things that marks the DCAU version of Batman above the rest, for example. How many other superheroes would have given Harley Quinn, who is the lover of a multiple mass murderer, a second or third chance?

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