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"I tried to think 'what would Pixar do with this concept?' We tried to create a really nice, complete adventure that says everything about Captain Marvel that's pure and great and non-ironic." -- Grant Morrison
"Grant mentioned it to me as this is the 'All-Star Superman' for Shazam/Captain Marvel." -- Cameron Stewart
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Date: 2015-01-20 01:54 am (UTC)I'm pretty sure there HAVE been successful "attempts" to make a Captain Marvel story with no irony, no camp and no attempt "to make him edgy" (as Morrison put it earlier). There was Jeff Smith's Monster Society of Evil (successful), Paul Dini/Alex Ross' "Shazam: Power of Hope" GN (successful), the little Billy Batson book for DC Kids by Franco and Balthasar which followed the Jeff Smith continuity (successful in terms of storytelling at least), Alex Ross/Jim Krueger's "Justice", Captain Marvel's appearances in Geoff Johns' JSA before he was jettisoned from the book (not including that hideous final arc), the entirety of the "Underworlds Unleashed" company crossover which was entirely predicated on how Billy/Cap was the purest soul in the world (OK, that was only somewhat successful).
Morrison is not inventing the wheel here. It is DC Editorial that has resisted and defied these successes (with Didio outright saying the Marvel Family didn't "fit" the ethos of the modern DCU). So we have a pitch for traditional interpretation of the Marvel Family in an monthly ongoing by two A-listers in Geoff Johns and Alex Ross actually rejected in favor of Judd Winick's "Trials of Shazam" which completely destroys the mythos and powers, puts Junior in the main role, pushes Billy to the side and actually puts Mary into a coma. And Morrison himself (who now makes "no apologies" for Mary Bromfield's good deeds ledger) was the inventor of the Black Mary Marvel fiasco - since he wanted to corrupt the purest beings for Final Crisis AND he wanted a suitable rival for Supergirl was able defeat to define the future of "femininity in the DCU" (yes, he said that). This is all on DC here and the troubles the Shazam franchise has had is (as Mark Waid put it when referring to Mary specifically): "is nothing to do with what’s broken or not broken about the concept, and everything to do with a bunch of creepy-ass older men working out their issues." If Disney owned Captain Marvel we would have seen cartoons/live action movies and yes possibly even a Pixar film already.
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Date: 2015-01-20 01:18 pm (UTC)I think his point is that DC isn't treating Captain Marvel pure and unironically RIGHT NOW. Which they most certainly aren't. Or in the last few years, outside of out-of-continuity projects like the ones you mentioned.
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Date: 2015-01-20 02:20 am (UTC)Good times, Good times.
Anyways, my favorite part of this was Sivana being taken aback at mad slasher Sivana.
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Date: 2015-01-20 02:45 am (UTC)Another thing I like: How do you take the magic out of a wizards lair? Convert it to a corporate office!
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Date: 2015-01-20 05:01 am (UTC)Even that Shazam stone idol looks flustered at Sivana's blasphemy.
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Date: 2015-01-20 02:54 am (UTC)I also like the tricking of Georgia, too caught up in her new beauty to see the trap.
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Date: 2015-01-20 03:00 am (UTC)Then again, I could be reading too much into it, considering some of the other Multiversity issues had their own explanations for what was going on, and others don't even bother with it at all...
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Date: 2015-01-20 04:10 am (UTC)Once Sivana found these comics that are revealing the multiverse, he decided "Hey, why don't I call up all the other Sivana's from the rest of the multiverse and then we can really wreck some shit."
Also, I just had a thought: The interdimensional council of Sivana's vs. the Interdimensional council of Reed Richards.
The science fight to end all science fights.
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Date: 2015-01-20 04:17 am (UTC)And that is a fight I would love to see!
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Date: 2015-01-21 07:25 pm (UTC)Wow!
Date: 2015-01-20 03:41 am (UTC)Re: Wow!
Date: 2015-01-20 05:25 am (UTC)Re: Wow!
Date: 2015-01-20 11:44 am (UTC)The point being that the thing standing in the way of the villain isn't the hero: it's the villain himself.
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Date: 2015-01-20 06:50 am (UTC)Either that or he's a past version of the one from "Curse of Shazam"...or an antimatter counterpart that Mazahs hasn't gotten around to murdering yet.
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Date: 2015-01-20 10:39 pm (UTC)Cut to the lower-right monitor with the reveal of all the alternate Sivanas: "Nooooooo..." Thankfully, no, African-American Sivana is not the ultimate mastermind behind it all. But in some small way I was snickering a bit at that, just a tad.
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Date: 2015-01-27 07:17 am (UTC)Captain MarvelShazam.