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I'm very ambivelent about the Superman/WW romance--two perfect people getting together has all the drama of Ken and Barbie (besides, sooner or later Clark's pacifist and nonmilitary background will cause a splitup with the daughter of a warrior queen brought up in a warrior society) but a warrior god, with tormented vulnerabilities and anger issues, who keeps calling her "legs"?
MUCH better. Orion and WW have MUCH more in common than an alien raised in Kansas.
Case in point...
Wonder Woman is on New Genesis, being shown Supertown by Highfather, and is asked what Orion is doing in such a place of peace. Highfather answers, "On the planet below. Meditating..."
I like the way Orion tries to "fight" anger, that even in meditation his metaphors are violent. It's futile, but it's SO Orion.
For my money, there is ten times more chemistry, more romantic tension, more genuine emotion between Orion and Wonder Woman then Superman and Wonder Woman could ever hope for.
Superman and Wonder Woman are a fanboy's dream. But the best relationships are fraught with flaws and faults...like Orion's jagged real face.
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Date: 2013-07-24 02:28 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-07-24 02:32 am (UTC)But then...
I think what happened (those who read the story know what I mean) was really what he planned all along.
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Date: 2013-07-24 02:56 am (UTC)Then again, you could probably put Diana with a rock, and they'd still have more romantic chemistry than she does with Superman
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Date: 2013-07-24 03:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-07-24 04:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-07-24 05:47 am (UTC)Normally I'd whine about the lack of coherence there, but.. Well, to me it's plain that the books that aren't incredibly steeped in the editorial stuff of the New52 are infinitely better. Like Batwoman, and this.
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Date: 2013-07-24 09:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-07-24 05:33 am (UTC)However I have to say this issue really endeared Orion to me. He's an ass, but he knows he's an ass and really wants to not be. I like characters who try to be good despite themselves.
And Diana's trust in him as well as well as Orion's fear of disappointing her was great.
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Date: 2013-07-24 05:35 am (UTC)And Lois Lane is the daughter of a warrior general who was brought up in both a warrior society (i.e. military bases) and high city life, two different cultures completely different from his own, and yet I don't see anyone saying that Lois and Clark were too different for it to work; in fact, most people tend to think that the differences make them stronger as a couple.
Also--isn't the typical complaint about SM/WW that they're too much the same? Big ole' superheroes who can lift planes with their pinkies? How can it not work because they're both too much the same AND have too many differences?
I mean, don't get me wrong, it wouldn't be my first choice, but I don't see the problem of the characters having this sort of relationship for a little while.
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Date: 2013-07-24 06:23 am (UTC)Whereas he does not approve of Diana's willingness to kill and maim, which is on display fairly regularly in the current continuity. And precisely because they're both big ol' superheroes, it's harder for Clark to excuse her using extreme violence in situations where he'd refrain. If she was an ordinary human he'd cut her more slack. (So it is a problem of them being too similar, power-wise, and too different, morally.)
That said, I can't see Orion being a great romantic choice for Wonder Woman either. They may be able to bond as warriors, but the guy's a walking laundry list of stereotypical man-issues, and if there were ever a heroine who should have no patience for that in a partner, it's Diana.
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Date: 2013-07-24 06:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-07-24 02:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-07-24 06:18 pm (UTC)Also liking the crossover of Greek gods with New Gods. There's a nice little parallel between Wonder Woman's name "Diana" and Orion who was also a hunter in Greek myth.
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Date: 2013-07-25 09:14 pm (UTC)oh the parallel is cute, Diana is the roman name of Artemis that had a platonic relationship with the hunter Orion. tha was good Azzarello