scans_daily | Injustice Gods Among Us #24 Kalibak Pick A Bad Day To Invade Earth

Superman kills Kalibak and goes talk to Barry vibrating at super speed so not to be interrupted.

When Barry refuse superman plan. He goes into action with getting a small sun boost and then going all around the earth using heat vision and super speed to evaporate the parademon troops.

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From:

nightauditguy

So what happened, did he nuke the mothership or whatever?

From:

fungo_squiggly

I like to think that Batman is simply shocked that Superman is throwing a victory celebration with plain orange fireworks and boring gray confetti.

From:

superfangirl1

Exploding parademon troops because of heat vision and there remain falling from the sky. ;)

From:

icon_uk

Rather damp, sticky bits of grey confetti, and the occasional eyeball and kidney for novelty value..

From:

silicondream

Hey, when you try throw a party the size of the earth, some off-season Halloween decorations are inevitably going to end up in there somewhere.

From:

featheredserpent

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/dgm/102.jpg

"The audience quickly realized a few things: it wasn't a magic trick, there wasn't candy in there, and they'd need new clothes."

From:

superfangirl1

Superman goes into action with getting a small sun boost and then going all around the earth using heat vision and super speed to evaporate the parademon troops.

From:

kd_the_movie

I find it funny and coincidental that the injustice Superman will eventually go off the deep end and get all power crazy cuz man they are just taking that whole "WE DONT KILL EVER" thing and saying "its really kind of stupid/inefficient".

From:

starwolf_oakley

That's the problem with this. Superman deciding "Gosh, not killing the bad guys sure is inefficient."

I don't recall the exact story, but there is some story where Superman is able to stop some "evil superheroes from a parallel universe" because since they kill the bad guys, they never really learned how to fight.

From:

chrisdv

Well, this kinda comes up in the game - The Injustice-verse characters all get their asses kicked by their counterparts, since they're out of practice.

From:

omgwtflolbbqbye

Sort of came up at the beginning of Morrison's Batman run too when Bruce points out that engaging the type of bad guys they face on a regular basis without having those encounters result in any fatalities requires a ridiculous amount of precision and self-control.

Although, the inverse argument was made, in Kelly and Mankhe's "JLA: Obsidian Age", since the League of Ancient's willingness to kill and cause collateral damage was cited as the edge they needed to beat and kill the JLA.

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naebler

I actually liked the Obsidian Age arc. I personally would love a release of those chars, even as Skins for Injustice. The Whaler could be a skin for GL. The Amazon could be WW, each of the League of Ancients would be awesome. I just want to play as the Whaler....

From:

akodo_rokku

I think it was in the Superman/Batman storyline where Supes and Bats fought Not The Ultimates.

From:

ozaline

Pretty sure he says that to Ultraman in the Crisis on Two Earths movie, it was probably used in the comics at some point too.

From:

chrisdv

So... Why does the Flash side with the New Regime for 5 years again?

From:

shingi70

Well Injustice superman kills or maims anyone who tries to oppose him.

From:

nyadnar17

Personally I always found it dumb that DC superhero's still played by vigilante rules(which make perfect sense to me most of the time) during war time. In Marvel once war is declared all bets are off.

From:

stolisomancer

Hell, sometimes it doesn't even take that much. Tony Stark had quite a bodycount in the '90s because he was permanently pissed off over getting shot.

From:

darkblade

Everyone had a body count in the 90s. We just usually don't talk about it.

From:

lieut_kettch

A body count, and a mullet.

From:

donnblake

A mullet-count of one.

From:

q99

I don't like this Wondy, but I do like her costume. Pants, good color balance, a bit 'o armor.

From:

freezer

Once again: Why am I supposed to disagree with Superman?

From:

bruinsfan

I have to agree. Against normal criminals robbing banks and such, or even attempting murder, he has the luxury to opt for a nonviolent solution. But you don't just punch out hordes of super-powered troops in an invasion force that are trying to kill people and hope they don't start up again when they wake.

From:

nyadnar17

I especially like the fact where the invaders in this case are literally demons lead by an actual Evil god that desires the end of free will.

From:

lucky_gamble

Not really seeing a downside

From:

xamda

Something something something moral high ground.

From:

shadowpsykie

while i don't disagree with the idea that some times one has to kill (especially in war time) I think i kinda agree with the reasoning sometime. Once you kill (for some people) it becomes easier and easier to rationalize it in other situations. Superman seems too willing to kill. I like old 52 Wonder Woman who did everything in her power to NOT kill, but when other lives were at stake, didn't hesitate for a second to kill.

From:

theflames

She was a staple of self control.

Unlike the people we have here. See, what I REALLY dislike about the whole 'we don't kill' superheroes is that their usual excuse is basically 'I won't have any self control after doing it the first time' - and that is RICH coming from these self appointed vigilantes, especially Superman. Killing is hard, yes, but to imply that once you do it you'll become a mad serial killer is annoying.

I like the heroes that use it as a last option, an absolute last... the kind who won't send Darkseid home and hope he doesn't want to get revenge later.

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jlbarnett

the idea is once you justify it once you;ll find ways to justify it easier later.

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theflames

yes, and that's a nice and fair idea. But DC (and Marvel... when they feel like it) always take it to sic extremes, a character kills pragmatically for the first time? They're mad, and need to be stopped, or go on some never ending downward spiral. Que Batman entering the scene and spouting some malarky.

It's always extremes and never middle grounds (as shown with this Injustice comic, or in JLU) which is jarring.

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ozaline

Seriously you'd think every supehero was a Jedi who had to worry about accumulating too many Darkseid points. (see what I did there? ;p)

From:

junipepper

I've pretty much hated everything about this book, but -- that's a really nice drawing of Wondy, there. It's a good pose, she looks very strong, the size of her waist is almost realistic, and she's rocking that outfit.

From:

rainspirit

Yeah, that's the only thing I'm taking from this.

Why wasn't she allowed pants, again?

From:

theflames

there was backlash from some fans. I was all for the pants...

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theflames

Wait... when *don't* they kill Parademons -- I swear every time Parademons come up, weather it be in the comics or in the animated version, they're fodder, and they have implied lethal force used on them.

ALSO - if I was there, in that scene of crumbling Parademon confetti, I'd be holding my breath SO hard.

Edited Date: 2013-06-25 09:03 pm (UTC)

From:

jlbarnett

it's only implied. Parademons are like any mook. The reader has no idea how much punishment they can take so that superpunch could knock them for a loop, knock them unconscious or be crushing their skulls

From:

theflames

Yeah, though since caution is never implied by any character, other than now, the heroes always seem like they're going all out on them, straight for the kill.

Earth 2 had the big 3 explicitly using lethal force.

From:

naebler

I cant remember where, but I swear in one of the iterations someone said that Parademons were cyborgconstructs with no individual sentience, save for the one in secret six.

From:

darkblade

I'd almost swear this was done to intentionally riff off the general internet opinion on Man of Steel.

From:

an_idol_mind

I generally don't like superheroes killing in stories, but I have a hard time trying to see why annihilating an army of demonic aliens who are trying to exterminate life on Earth is a bad thing.

From:

silicondream

But the Parademons had so much to live for!

From:

icon_uk

Now I want to see the Parademon equivalent of the "Expendable henchmen" scenes in "Austin Powers"... where we see things like Parademon 318470-A46 having his bachelor party, Parademon 74193-U66 realising that she's only two credits to go on her Masters in Fine Arts, Parademon 81365-H11 kissing minDemons A81365-A01 and A81365-A02 goodbye before heading off to work that morning....

From:

zabilac

I want to punch panel 7 Flash in the face.

From:

skemono

I'm just curious... are Parademons generally sentient creatures that Superman would normally even care about killing? I mean, I know we've seen some that are sentient, like in one issue of Azrael and in Secret Six... but by and large, I assumed they were mostly mindless monstrosities that Darkseid somehow spawned whenever he felt the need for an army, and those couple were maybe aberrations.

From:

silicondream

In some stories Parademons are chosen from the human-ish Hunger Dog population, but mostly (I think) they're shown to be grown artificially. And yeah, they're usually low-intelligence and lacking in individuality, except for various "special" ones. They still have emotions, though. A random Parademon, stranded on Earth in the Cosmic Odyssey miniseries, was capable of thought and feeling (and distress at being abandoned by the collective and Darkseid's will.)

You'd think that everyone on Apokolips should either be mindless or constantly suffering, at least if Darkseid's doing his job right.

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junipepper

You know, it's as if they decided to have Superman kill off an army of alien invaders, and then got cold feet about it, and then went for some kind of middle ground: We'll have Supes kill those creatures of pure evil that we, um, have all our heros kill every fricking time they show up, but then we'll have the other heroes act all shocked by the cruelty. "Golly, Clark, why didn't you slow down enough to just knock each parademon unconscious, while they were busily trying to exterminate the human race? What is the matter with you?"

Seriously, none of this makes any sense. Except for Wondy's leggings.

From:

sadoeuphemist

I"m going to be contrary here and say I don't think killing in this situation was at all justified. Superman practically stops time so he can debate with the Flash the morality of his actions beforehand. With a sun boost, he flies around the world and single-handedly incinerates the invading army. This is no longer meaningfully a war, or even a challenge. When you're operating at that level, seriously, why not knock them all out and put them all in a giant jar or something. I don't think it would be significantly more impossible.

And Parademons are either supposed to be vat-grown soldiers, or recruited Hunger Dogs or whatever, some of whom have been shown as being capable of developing individual personalities. But most never get a chance because they're citizens in a totalitarian planet-state that systematically breaks their wills and keeps them brutal and mindlessly obedient. They were all forced into being shock troopers for Darkseid, they never had a say in the matter.

From:

damar148

While I don't have an issue with the killing of the Parademons, I do have issue with Wondy smiling like it's raining candy.

Especially when in the game 5 years later, she is Clark's mistress and does nothing but get beat up or captured, her regular counterpart preforming barely better.

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