The first Arena Proto-Previews
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In fact, they inflate them.
These are super early non-scan photos from the preview book, so sorry about the quality. Ain't mine.
Sure, we have no context for it, and this could easily be a fake out, but it does confirm the Trigger Scent theory at least in part. Which I still think is bullshit to do something like that so early from a narrative standpoint. And it hints to one of my biggest worries: that any character considered "too deadly" or "too powerful" will be killed off early to extend this thing. The amount of damage Hazmat has taken in this preview (cracked helmet, torn suit, stomach wound) is not promising in the slightest.
I'm hoping for a fake out. I mean, this sort off preview is designed to spark outrage and I bet they know it. We're being trolled, folks, either way this turns, we are being trolled. Edit to add; especially if the character I dubbed "not Hazmat" from the covers of 2 and 3 is actually Hazmat re-coloured due to plot.
10 out of 10, Marvel. 10 out of 10.
Man, and I wanted to post more fun pages from Academy soon. Then this happens.
Edit: Double-picked it. My bad
Final Edit: Ya know, I'm actually starting to feel a bit bad for Hopeless, here. No matter what, he's sort off doomed and until this thing is published/completed, he's going to be inundated with angry fan mails. It got so bad this evening with this that he deleted some comments from his blog. It's the price of trolling, but I think a more reasoned explanation of our aggitation is in order, to show that A) we have a valid point, B) what truly gets us to read comics.
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Date: 2012-10-09 05:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-09 06:01 am (UTC)And Also, Gage told us that the first issue's end would anger us.
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Date: 2012-10-09 06:22 am (UTC)Also, is it just me, or does Laura have a new costume here? I don't remember her's being so...stripy.
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Date: 2012-10-09 06:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-09 10:09 am (UTC)There was one Marvel Team-Up book where X-23 along with some other characters ended up in the future, and the Reed Richards there was "Ah, X-23, I didn't recognize you out of your uniform." And I was like, "Wait, what? She's in a moderately different skintight black uniform, and she never wears a mask. Future Reed, your recognition skills suck."
(Or it might've been early enough that the 'savage' outfit he was referring to... but even by that point she had pretty much dropped it).
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Date: 2012-10-09 05:59 am (UTC)Of course, I can also see Laura pulling herself out of it before Hazmat gets anything really permanent done to her.
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Date: 2012-10-09 06:03 am (UTC)And the first death isn't promised until #2. I hope, but my hope is minimal. Someone! Find the Blue Lantern Corgi!
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Date: 2012-10-09 06:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-09 06:27 am (UTC)Give me the stomach to survive this and the focus to finish up my work and "Rockslide's Wacky Wrestling".
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Date: 2012-10-09 07:12 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-09 07:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-09 01:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-09 07:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-09 06:12 am (UTC)i loathe death as a selling point, but if a good story can be made out of this, i'm game...
in other words, i am still on the fence, i know how EASY it will be for this to be utter and complete crap. but i also believe there is a hope for greatness...
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Date: 2012-10-09 06:17 am (UTC)Which I hope he is. Because that's one of the only hopes left.
God, I need to sleep.
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Date: 2012-10-09 06:40 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-09 07:08 am (UTC)Oh, and the continuing bile of a thousand fans, crying as one. How the hell does "Pay us to kill all your favorite characters horribly for money" sound like a good idea?
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Date: 2012-10-09 07:41 am (UTC)Which, again, is a big part of why I find this idea so distasteful. Marvel is marketing it as an underage kill-fest and betting that their readers will flock to it.
Fuck that noise. Not only am I not going to buy this, I've made sure to tell my LCS owner why. I'm hoping the more "you're wasting shelf space if you expect me to pick this up" feedback Marvel's real customers -- the shop owners -- get about this, the quicker this thing can be forced toward cancellation.
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Date: 2012-10-09 07:57 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-09 06:57 am (UTC)And what would even happen if Hazmat died? Wouldn't she go off like a nuclear bomb? X-23 is tough but I don't think she can survive a nuclear blast. Maybe they're planning to eliminate Hazmat and X-23 at the same time.
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Date: 2012-10-09 07:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-09 10:20 am (UTC)What is the deal with everyone having access to the trigger scent? Not only is it made by clandestine organization, it was created specifically for X-23. It's not a very useful chemical since it only works on X-23-
In her series, a group made a variant that works on everyone.
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Date: 2012-10-09 07:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-09 07:08 am (UTC)Also... I can't possibly judge before I actually read or get a bunch of scans as we go along. Anyone whose groan attached to the characters will be annoyed full stop. But well, y'know... comics. Marvel and DC comics.
It's NOT ABOUT making a new generation of heroes that'll grow and be good for the next 50 years, they already have those, so y'know. I think that's a shame. But I understand what I'm getting into in a sense.
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Date: 2012-10-09 08:30 am (UTC)Someone raises their hand, 'Well we could copy DC and kill off all the superfluous teenage superheroes, that might be popular.'
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Date: 2012-10-19 06:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-19 07:00 pm (UTC)It's also a generic jab at the perceived lack of competence at the top end of the editorial offices in regards to 'assigning' stories.
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Date: 2012-10-09 08:35 am (UTC)These stories where children, especially those that are friends, are forced to murder each other disturb me, and I can't separate the fun from them. I'm a big fan of slasher and action films and ultra violence, but I can't stand this story.
Also I agree with Biod about removing the satire in these stories make them completely miss the point.
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Date: 2012-10-09 10:56 am (UTC)The difference is that the casts of a slasher film are either either complete idiots - who deserve to die, usually - or mildly sympathetic; If they're the latter, then unless it's something like Halloween with a cast member who gets carried over from film to film, it's sad that they die, but at least it's.. What, a ninety minute film and a standalone experience?
Here, it's characters people have known for years. Characters who aren't designed for this kind of scenario. Characters we're really attached to. They shouldn't be employed in this kind of book because the creators KNOW full well that we're attached to them, even if they're not as popular as the Avengers crowd.
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Date: 2012-10-10 06:07 am (UTC)But when you involve character that we love and have loved for years, and then you suddenly turn them into kill-each-other plot points -- it just doesn't work on the same level. :/
Which is the main reason I really, really hope it's a fake-out.
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Date: 2012-10-09 04:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-09 08:15 pm (UTC)I mean Arcade does regularly build robotic duplicates of supers. It'd be a good way to destroy any trust they have between eachother
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Date: 2012-10-09 09:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-10 11:15 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-10 11:26 am (UTC)I will give it a chance, but I'm not going to give it the benefit of the doubt.
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Date: 2012-10-10 04:00 pm (UTC)Also, Christos Gage has read the first issue and said that it's not going to change the minds of anyone who dislikes the concept being presented. Given that he's been a class act and would not be stirring shit against someone else's book, the fact that he's indicating that the whole thing is being played straight gives me even less reason to give the book the benefit of the doubt.
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Date: 2012-10-09 10:20 pm (UTC)decent author + decent artist + SHITTY, SHITTY GRIMDARK KIDDY MURDERTIMES PREMISE = nope, not buying, fuck you marvel.
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Date: 2012-10-09 11:41 pm (UTC)