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So what do you guys think of this scene? My view of it was that Mitch was hitting on Mon-El Jon, what with the "strapping fellow" comment and him telling Jon not to be a stranger. The awkward use of ... I forget the word, but it's like "positive adjectives" would be foreshadowing if it were a guy and a girl. James Robinson's been pretty LGBT friendly from what I've seen in Starman, so this wouldn't surprise me.

This book is pretty neat. Is anyone else here picking it up? I LOVE Renato Guedes' art so much, and the writing is picking up.

Date: 2009-06-01 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
Well, you'll need to put this under a cut, it's way too big.

As a Brit, we call it "cocoa" too, but the other term is "hot chocolate", "drinking chocolate" is known, but rarely used.

Mitch could well be trying to chat him up, but he needs to work on his line "Geez, you ain't done much with YOUR life" is pretty much guaranteed to NOT make we want to give your cafe business.

Date: 2009-06-01 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parsimonia.insanejournal.com
I think I've heard it called "cocoa" before, but now I'm not sure whether I've actually heard people I know calling it that or if I've heard it on TV or read it in books. Bah!

Date: 2009-06-01 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ghosty732.insanejournal.com
I live in Ontario. It's almost always called "Hot Chocolate" but I've heard people say "hot cocoa" before in almost a joking tone (I've said it myself).

Date: 2009-06-01 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
Yeah, "drinking chocolate" is what's written on the tin sometimes (usually when it already has sugar in, I think? or sugar and milk powder? rather that straight cocoa), but I don't think I've ever heard anyone call the liquid form that.

Which is a shame, cos it sounds so proper.

Date: 2009-06-02 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
From Wikipedia

Americans have come to use the terms "hot chocolate" and "hot cocoa" interchangeably, obscuring the considerable difference between the two. "Hot cocoa" is made from powder made by extracting most of the rich cocoa butter from the ground cacao beans. "Hot chocolate," on the other hand, is made directly from bar chocolate, which already contains cocoa, sugar and cocoa butter. Thus the major difference between the two is the cocoa butter, which makes hot cocoa significantly lower in fat than hot chocolate, while still preserving all the intrinsic health-giving properties of chocolate.

Hot chocolate can be made with dark, semisweet, or bittersweet chocolate, chopped into small pieces and stirred into milk with the addition of sugar. American hot cocoa powder often includes powdered milk or other dairy ingredients so it can be made without using milk.

In the United Kingdom, "hot chocolate" is a sweet chocolate drink made with hot milk or water, and powder containing chocolate, sugar, and powdered milk. "Cocoa" usually refers to a similar drink made with just hot milk and cocoa powder, then sweetened to taste with sugar.


And now I want some! But it's a boiling hot day and it's bad for the teeth.. but even so... :(

Date: 2009-06-02 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
Bad for the teeth but good for the.. taste nodes..?

Mmmm. It does say right there that cocoa has health-giving properties!

Date: 2009-06-02 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 04nbod.insanejournal.com
my grandpa calls it drinking chocolate. I don't like the stuff personally but thats what I've grown up hearing

Date: 2009-06-02 07:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
Thinking about it, it might be something deiberate.

Cadbury's definitely marketed their chocolate drink as "Drinking Chocolate" rather than "Cocoa" and Bournville released theirs as "Cocoa", so it might have been a consicous efffort not to differnetiate between the drinks, but the major manufacturers.

Indeed, there used to be an advert in the UK for Cadbury's which used the lines

"Cup hands, here comes Cadbury's
Cup hands, drinking chocolate
Cup hands, here comes Cadbury's now"

but that was probably last screened in the 80's or early 90's.

Date: 2009-06-01 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluefall.insanejournal.com
Oh he's definitely hitting on him.

I wouldn't call that a splash page, though. Two-page spread? A splash would be all one panel.

Date: 2009-06-02 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownscribler.insanejournal.com
I dunno, "splash" is a logical thought given how very obviously Mitch is hitting on Mon-El here.

Date: 2009-06-01 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] retro_nouveau.insanejournal.com
It's just harmless flirting at this point. We'll know it's on when Joey Mitch says, "Hey, Jon! How you doin'?"

Date: 2009-06-01 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daggerpen.insanejournal.com
Hmmm. It certainly reads like flirting, now that you point it out- I don't know if it'll go anywhere romantic, but I could see it.

Date: 2009-06-01 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nevermore999.insanejournal.com
He IS hitting on him. Nifty. I hope they get together, they're cute, and I would get to ogle pretty boys making bedroom eyes at each other.

Date: 2009-06-01 08:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] galateus.insanejournal.com
I sort of had trouble telling them apart at first, in the face-panels where you can't see what shirt they're wearing. Now I see the difference--it's all in the eyebrows.

At first I just accepted it as "Oh, a super-friendly businessperson. He's like that neighborhood mom who always tries to feed all her kid's friends," but by the point where he segued into talking about Paris, then I looked back and said, "Flirt."

Mon-El's sure come a long way from waiting on a cure for lead poisoning in the Phantom Zone.

Date: 2009-06-01 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mullon.insanejournal.com
That was the most boring flirting EVER!

Date: 2009-06-02 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownscribler.insanejournal.com
It's in a Superman comic. That it's even boring flirting is an achievement.

Date: 2009-06-01 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinisterlink.insanejournal.com
He's either flirting with him, or he's the most overly friendly guy EVER. Seriously, guys like that scare the crap out of me. Then again, I'm somewhat introverted, so that's to be expected.

Date: 2009-06-01 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
That panel where he tastes the.. what is that, a sammich? pizza? is that what a panini's supposed to look like?

The panel where he tastes the food and his hand is all curly curled is a great bit of observational drawing.

I didn't read it as flirting, but now you've mentioned it, I can see that. And I am seeing THINGS in the sentence about engines pulling in at stations.

Date: 2009-06-02 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
What on earth is a "sammich"? Is that different from a "sandwich"? :)

And no, panini should NOT look like it's been cut from a pizza, they are rectangular in shape, not sliced from a circle.

Date: 2009-06-02 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
It is different only in its spelling. I've been trying to get over my derision of the word sammich because it's so comfortable to say. So I use it at opportunities such as this!

Date: 2009-06-01 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tavella.insanejournal.com
It definitely feels like flirting. The "strapping" bit in particular -- if the cafe guy was older, it could come off as a parental, but with a 20-something guy? Yeah, flirting.

Date: 2009-06-02 09:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] espanolbot.insanejournal.com
Huh, didn't know that Mon-El had an English accent.

Date: 2009-06-02 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sir_razorback.insanejournal.com
Yeah, I forget where it was mentione dat before, but he's basically saying that it's an english accent so nobody looks at him too closely for not talking in a typical american sounding accent. (yeah I know, pick your region of the US for 'typical'. =p Try not to look at it too closely).

Date: 2009-06-02 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nymphgalatea.insanejournal.com
I love Mon-El, I really, really do. It breaks my heart that he's inevitably going to be shoved back into the Phantom Zone.

Date: 2009-06-02 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkknightjrk.insanejournal.com
Wow, is a two-page spread like that really necessary for such a scene?

And yeah, that's a pass if I've ever seen one.

Date: 2009-06-02 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sir_mikael.insanejournal.com
I'm thinking flirting. All them nice words, smiles, eye contact and pushyness.
Didn't Mon-El find out he's dying? Isn't that the perfect time for "Time is running out, and I've never really experienced much, certainly not luuuv, oh hey here's this cute guy, maybe I'll experience some love and then die in his arms or go off into another dimension never to see him again".

Then again the "don't be a stranger"-comment is a bit of a "shoo, go away now". Unless of course Monny is on his way out there.

I would like to point out my knowledge of Mon-Els backstory is limited at best, and don't know if he's ever been romantically linked with anyone.

Date: 2009-06-05 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bariman1987.insanejournal.com
I was flipping through some comics as Books-A-Million the other day and saw some pages of Guardian and the SCU fighting Shrapnel. Was that this issue? It stuck out to me because the last time Guardian fought Shrapnel, it ended... badly.

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