Ultimate Six: Part 2
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So when we last left off, Norman Osborn and the rest attacked S.H.I.E.L.D. and kidnapped Peter. After surveying the damage, Nick Fury decides to take in Aunt May for protection.
Meanwhile, Peter is being inducted into Norman's 'Six'.




Back with Nick Fury and co., Captain America once again calls out on Fury for commissioning the genetic experiments that lead to many of the villains' creations, saying that this was not the legacy he intended when he became Captain America. Nick Fury responds that Norman Osborn and co. would be trouble no matter what happened.
After their demands are refused, the Green Goblin leads an attack on the White House.


That's when the Ultimates' Helicarrier flies over ahead. "Osborn!" Captain America calls out.

# 6...
This is the big battle scene and it takes up the whole issue. So if you want to see most of it you can pick up the trade. I'm focusing more on the Green Goblin parts as he's the central focus.

Okay, so how big is the Green Goblin? In the previous issue he's tall but here he's a giant.
So Norman sends out Spider-Man to battle Captain America. Cap asks Spidey what he's doing, and he responds that he has no choice, because Norman will kill his aunt.


So I personally found this development to be a little disappointing. I found the concept of "Peter makes six" to be really interesting but in the end not a lot came of it.
So the battle wages on and the Ultimates manage to defeat the SIx. The Goblin is the last one standing. He continues to fight Captain America when someone calls out for him.


#7...
Norman accuses Nick Fury of shoving his own son in front of him.


So just as Norman is about to turn back into his human self and surrender, Iron Man shoots him in the back and causes Norman to get really screwed up.

So Thor returns after defeating Electro, with no one but Peter giving a damn that Harry just saw his father get shot down in front of him.

We then see the aftermath with the White House giving a press release on the "terrorist attack" on the White House lawn. There's also a bit of cover up going on, as they deny that there were any casualties, just a few bumps and bruises on the fine men and women of the Secret Service.
Finally...


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Date: 2011-05-24 07:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-24 07:39 pm (UTC)he's redeemed alittle in that he tells Fury what he did, without punching him in the face, echos and shades of our Cap.
i still don't like Ultimate Verse, Ultimate Cap least of all... almmost
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Date: 2011-05-24 08:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-24 09:42 pm (UTC)I think it's not so much he doesn't care, as he thinks there are more suitable people than him to deal with it. I mean - you can see in the scans above. Peter attacks Cap; Cap's pretty gentle with him. Cap's also very kind with him in the recent issue of Ultimate Avengers vs New Ultimates, comforting him when he's injured and assuring him he's not an idiot. In the first issue of UAvNU, he's also kind and comforting to a dying soldier. But he's very far from a counsellor and he in no way has the skills 616 Cap does at knowing the right thing to say.
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Date: 2011-05-24 09:48 pm (UTC)Also, Spidey's man-crush on Captain America is never not adorable.
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Date: 2011-05-25 12:13 pm (UTC)I heard comics used to feature those guys all the time.
Is the Cap in Ultimate Cap a different dude? Because the stuff I saw of that mini seemed like a totally different character.
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Date: 2011-05-25 12:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-24 08:53 pm (UTC)So, methinks that Norman just might've hired someone to steal a little bit of Bruce Banner's work.
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Date: 2011-05-24 09:04 pm (UTC)But the point I was making was that throughout the Ultimate Six arc the artist was inconsistent with the Goblin's size. Compare in the previous post how he looks like at the end of #2 to how he is in the beginning of #3.
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Date: 2011-05-24 09:14 pm (UTC)And maybe it's meant to be inconsistent on purpose? Norman can clearly control the change into the Goblin, so maybe he's able to control the mass, given he's absolutely huge on some pages. *shrugs*
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Date: 2011-05-24 09:24 pm (UTC)I think it's nothing more elaborate than the artist being inconsistent. When the Goblin's appeared in the regular title, both Bagley and Immomen drew him of a consistent size.
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Date: 2011-05-24 09:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-24 09:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-24 09:39 pm (UTC)Still, Banner's first Hulk out is before the start of Ultimates 2. Although I'm not sure why we're debating, isn't it stated in the text these guys come from attempts to recreate Steve?
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Date: 2011-05-24 09:59 pm (UTC)1. That Norman was copying Banner's notes or the Hulk formula (becoming the Goblin was a complete accident on his part, he wasn't attempting to copy the Hulk but to enhance his own natural abilities)
2. That the Goblin's size fluctuations were intentional on the part of the writer and not inconsistent art as the only time he's been depicted as such was when Hairsine illustrated him.
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Date: 2011-05-24 10:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-24 10:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-24 10:17 pm (UTC)I think you're right about the size changing though. I found the art really uneven in this series - some panels I liked, but overall it was kind of sloppy I thought.
Ultimate Retcon Confusion.
Date: 2011-05-26 03:26 am (UTC)Also, this and the first Doc Ock story pretty much established that Kraven is an even bigger loser then Shocker; at least Shocker was a recurring character in Ult. Spidey and got a sympathetic back story.
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Date: 2011-05-24 09:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-24 09:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-24 11:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-25 12:17 pm (UTC)You need data from his DNA? A dead frozen man's DNA is just as good as a living frozen one. That's the whole point of FREEZING HIM. And given that you just had him escape from incarceration and nearly MURDER THE PRESIDENT? I'm sorry, but I'm having a hard time seeing how that makes any sense.
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Date: 2011-05-24 11:44 pm (UTC)This falls into the bit blah for me; it lacks the charm of Spider-Man or the OTT semi-political stuff of early Ultimates.
Also didn't Washington get blown up by Magneto just before this Arc in Ultimate X-Men?
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Date: 2011-05-26 01:56 pm (UTC)Douche.
Really.