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This is the second part of 'Carnage', with issues #63 to #65.
So Aunt May returns home to find no one there. She realizes something is off and discovers...



The backyard is being swarmed with police. Peter and May are questioned about what went on, and another cop mentions similar things that have gone on at Empire State University and Manhattan. 'Vampiric' and 'mutant' are being tossed around.

There's a bit more dealing with grief; Mary Jane talks to Peter, who assures him that he was still a good friend to Gwen. Peter wonders what's the point of being Spider-Mani if he can't save the ones closest to him.
Later, Peter is considering all the possible people behind Gwen's death, when he remembers Empire State University. He sees Curt Connors standing outside his house (right now Peter is at Mary Jane's) and runs out and attacks him. Peter assumes that Connors had done something as the Lizard, but Connors explains there was an accident at the lab.



Next issue...

Yeah, Carnage was a lot more intimidating when he was silent and wasn't yelling "Beh!"


Peter says to himself how he has failed at keeping Uncle Ben's mantra of "with great power comes great responsibility". Carnage flees and kills two cops, before turning into a naked version of Peter.
Later, Connors is back in his lab when he finds Peter there. Peter tells him "It's done". Connors asks what happened, and Peter explains via flashback:


Peter tells Connors how the creature wasn't a person...it was an spore, an airborne virus. It didn't have a brain or a soul, and it didn't belong here. Peter lures it to a smoke stack.

Connors apologizes to Peter, who almost attacks him in response for his responsibility in Carnage and Gwen's death, but he restrains himself.
Later, Connors turns himself in.

Connor is taken into custody, his lab is closed but at the end of the issue, his lab assistant is seen pocketing Peter's blood samples.
So basically...in contrast to Venom, who I think in some ways works better than the standard 616 version, I think Bendis dropped the ball with Carnage. With the exception of Gwen's death, I don't think Ultimate Carnage would really have been a memorable villain and the whole thing comes off as a bad horror film at times. I do think the backstory of Carnage being an experiment was interesting, but Venom had that too.
One of the funniest things is how much contempt Bendis has for 616 Carnage, saying stuff like "I don't think it's impossible to tell a good story with Carnage, it just hasn't been done yet" and how this would be an improvement. Say what you want about Cletus, but at least he's fun to read sometimes with his crazy antics. Personally, given Bendis's tenure as a crime writer (especially Torso) I think a serial killer in an an alien suit would have been up his alley and he could have made it work.
Next issue was an 'epilogue' of sorts with Peter and friends in detention (long story). It had this opening scene:


One more 'interlude' post left before I can post the return of Venom.
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Date: 2011-05-18 07:34 pm (UTC)I got the impression it was trying to say "Ben", to at least be able to say it's name. Creepy face morphing too.
Connors really does come across as an unforgivable asswipe here, and I rather like Peter's "I'll throwing it in the room with you and locking the door" outburst.
As others have noted, I've always liked how expressive Bagley makes faces.
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Date: 2011-05-18 07:39 pm (UTC)There's not a lot you can do with this version of the character. At least the 616 Carnage can get by on camp value as the recent miniseries shows.
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Date: 2011-05-18 07:48 pm (UTC)Plus I never said I thought it had the legs to be a recurring villain, I like that it was done in one, but I still prefer it to dragging back the original the way the 616 Carnage does (especially this most recent revival)
Speaking purely personally, I find camp is cancelled out by murder. Threaten folks? Sure. Elaborate deathtraps? Assuredly. Bodycount? Not so much. When Carnage starts killing people in gruesome agonising ways, I feel whimsy has pretty much left the building.
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Date: 2011-05-18 11:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-19 12:24 am (UTC)It really wasn't, though. It was stupid.
IMO? You want to make an evil Spider-Man, it starts with a mirror not of Spidey but of Peter. The guy who gets the Carnage symbiote isn't Otto from the Simpsons, but a genius bookish, social outcast. Kicked all the way up the ladder, never noticed by girls or guys alike. Make him a devious serial killer who acts as a "hero" during the day, stopping petty supervillains, but also solving his own gruesome murders. Hell, introduce him as someone trying to help Spidey out, then the reveal. Maybe Spidey finds out his civvie identity inadvertently and then starts to piece together that this was a disturbed individual. He doesn't even know that it's been the Carnage symbiote, because this kid was actually batshit insane enough to [tame] it. Then Pete tracks him to his family home home on a hunch, nd finds, I unno, a bunch of victims cocooned up in cacaphony of webbing, being fed on by the kid and his hundreds of pet spiders. That could be a cool story.
Maximum Carnage wasn't. I read it too, I was 10 and the crossover had like every Marvel hero I loved drawing at the time, and a bitching Sega Genesis tie-in. With the nostalgia glasses off, though... it was still dreck.
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Date: 2011-05-19 01:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-19 12:14 am (UTC)I hate a lot of today's fans, it turns out.
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Date: 2011-05-19 12:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-18 07:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-19 01:27 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-18 07:49 pm (UTC)As for the fridging of Gwen Stacy, that was done in a ham handed and detestable manner. It didn't need to happen, and it made Bendis look lazy.
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Date: 2011-05-18 08:03 pm (UTC)Carnage
Date: 2011-05-19 02:14 am (UTC)I also find it interesting how for much of this arc, including the final punch-out, Peter wasn't in costume, just like the Venom arc, as a matter of fact, and the Clone Saga arc that would occur later.
And you know what's weird? This is pretty much the first and only time Conners had a central role in Ult. Spidey - his previous and later appearances were little more then glorified cameos, and his Lizard persona has appeared exactly never.
Re: Carnage
Date: 2011-05-19 06:16 pm (UTC)