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icon_uk ([personal profile] icon_uk) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2011-04-30 11:25 am

From the Marvel Vaults - The Defenders

Found this news over on www.busiek.com




This is the blurb to go with it

A Marvel Masterpiece from deep inside the treasure vaults can now be told! The original team of Doctor Strange, The Hulk, Silver Surfer and Namor are together again for a hidden adventure! But why was this tale lost? What happens in other dimensions stays in other dimensions, so what unspeakable secrets of the The Defenders are to be revealed? Find out at last in these pages with the illustrious words of Kurt Busiek (THE DEFENDERS, MARVELS) and the incomparable artwork of artist Mark Bagley (ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN)!


This may be one of the greatest Defenders stories ever told. Or it may be a total trainwreck. Or, just possibly, both.
Or, you know, somewhere in between, there, but who sells comics with wishy-washy statements like "somewhere in between, there"?
Here's what happened:
Back when Erik Larsen and I were doing Defenders, editor Tom Brevoort had a fill-in prepared, just in case. Mark Bagley had some time in his schedule, so Tom had Fabian Nicieza write up a plot—apparently very quickly, from what Fabian remembers—and then Mark drew it up, and it got put in a drawer. And then it was never used.
Until now.
As part of their whole "From the Marvel Vault" program, they've resurrected this story and finished it up. But there were a few problems along the way.
First off, Fabian couldn't script it, because he's currently under contract at DC.
So they asked me. I like writing the Defenders, I had a blast on that run with Erik, here's a chance to revisit it, and it's Mark Bagley art to boot, so why not? I agreed. Just send me the art and the plot.
Well, they could send me the art. They don't have a copy of the plot.
No problem, I'll just ask Fabian.
No, he doesn't have one either. Lost in a hard-drive crash, years ago.
And to make matters worse, Fabian doesn't even remember what the story was. He remembers that he wrote it—probably got the job on Friday and had a plot in by Monday or Tuesday—but he doesn't have a clue what the details of the story are. Even the art doesn't jog his memory beyond, "Yeah, Mark sure did a nice job, didn't he?"
Mark doesn't remember much more. It was years ago.
So I look over the art, and Mark Bagley did indeed do a very nice job. And he's a good enough storyteller that I can piece together an outline of what the story must be, at least in the basics. But the bits where explanations happen, where the texture and detail go that make it more than just a simple structure?
Haven't a clue.
So I have to come up with a story to fit the art. A new story. One that might bear some resemblance to what Fabian intended, at least at the big structural moments, but other than that, it's wide open.
And as I keep looking through the art, I get an idea. A pretty demented idea, really, based on one cryptic panel late in the book (You'll know it when you see it. The script for that panel is "HTNN--!"). But it's an idea that, demented as it is, won't go away. And actually, I'm thinking, it could be kinda fun...
I tell Fabian the idea, mostly as a joke. But he laughs, and says that it sounds like a hoot, and it might even be better than whatever his original story was.
And I tell Rachel Pinnelas, who's editing it, and she cracks up, and says "Do it, do it."
So I do it.
It's not what Fabian plotted, not by any means. It's very strange. It has a very old, very dumb joke about a hot dog vendor in it. It has the Hulk building sandcastles. A near-pointless cameo by Empress Lilandra. And I had a blast writing it.
I think readers are going to have just as much fun with it. The Lady Dorma scene alone should be worth the price of admission.

[Note: Lady Dorma was not even in the original version.]


And this is why I LOVE Kurt Busiek! I love the sheer honesty in the "I made this up as I went along based on the pictures".

This is pretty much an instant "MUST BUY" issue!

Oh, and I'm guessing, given the Dr Strange involvement, that the hot dog joke is probably going to be a more literal variation of "Make me one with everything" :)

[identity profile] screamsheet.wordpress.com 2011-04-30 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm sold.
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[personal profile] misterbug 2011-04-30 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
This is VERY similar to the creative process that Lee & Kirby went through in their earliest Fantastic Four days. Lee would stand around telling Kirby what was happening (or would phone him), Kirby would sketch out the rough pencils, then finish the art independently. After that, Lee would supervise the lettering based on his half-remembered ideas and any new or different things that had happened in Kirby's interpretation.

Read some of Lee's early work. You'll notice that it's much more like he's narrating live-action events than something he wrote.

[personal profile] jlbarnett 2011-04-30 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
supposedly that's how Captain America's "man out of time" thing came about
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[personal profile] starwolf_oakley 2011-04-30 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Scott Lobdell scripted X-MEN Vol. 2 issues #5-11.
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[personal profile] starwolf_oakley 2011-04-30 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Scott Lobdell scripted X-MEN Vol. 2 issues #5-11 in a similar way. Jim Lee had plotted and drawn the issues, while Lobdell scripted them, adding a lot of jokes and snarky remarks.
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[personal profile] schala_kid 2011-05-01 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! After reading some old Defenders stuff plus Keith Giffen, J. M. DeMatteis, and Kevin Maguire's Defenders, I seriously got into this team.

And even if I hadn't read about the Defenders, seriously, a team made by Dr. Strange, Namor, Hulk, and the Silver Surfer! Four characters that really don't have much to do with each other and couldn't be more different (just throw in Iron Fist to make it more crazy) it just makes this whole thing really interesting to me.

Also Patsy Walker and Valkyrie joining later on! Seriously this team is cool!