Casstoons: the History of Cass - Part 3
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And on the same subject, here is part of an interview that Newsarama had with Scott Snyder on Cass' role in Gates of Gotham,
Nrama: Let's talk about Gates of Gotham. We already discussed this book in detail with you and Kyle, but since that interview, it's been revealed at a convention that one of the guest stars in the book is Cassandra Cain. Does she play a big role?
Snyder: Yeah, Cassandra plays an important role in the story. She's not just a sidekick or anything. She has an emotional stake in solving the mystery that is central to the story.
Kyle and I are huge fans of her character, and the series was conceived with her as a part of it from the very beginning. She's not a character we threw in lightly at all, as someone to just be part of the cast for fun.
The story, in a lot of ways, is linked to what I'm trying to do in Detective and stories that will be upcoming in the Bat-world to. It all ties into how Gotham is an adversary to Batman and the Bat-family. To know Gotham is to know yourself, and Gates of Gotham is really about how you have to sort of understand Gotham's history to really have a chance to save it in the present. Its history is almost alive beneath the city in a figurative way.
So Cassandra, with her whole history and heritage, and who she's been not just in terms of the Bat-family itself, but in terms of her family history has tremendous ties to the history of Gotham and the mythology of the Bat. So she was an important character to use because of that. And we'll be using other characters whose families and whose stories date back through Gotham, like the Drakes and the Waynes and the Cobblepots and some of the other families that you associate with Gotham. We'll be exploring their historical links to it.
Nrama: So it's Cassandra in the present, investigating a crime of the past along with Dick and Tim?
Snyder: Yeah, Gates of Gotham is focused on a crime that is committed in the present that echoes a crime that was committed in the past, in the gilded age of Gotham. And the crime now, with the destruction of certain things in Gotham, is almost a calling card for Batman to begin to discover Gotham's dark and secret past and these terrible things that happened right around the time the skyline of Gotham was being formed.
For us, it's a story about legacy and heritage and the dark ways in which Gotham can shape who you are without you even knowing how.
From Here,
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/scott-snyder-joker-detective-finale-110427.html
Intially I was thinking upon reading this that "What? David Cain or Lady Shiva can from Gotham too?", but then I realised that when they're talking about Cass' family history... that might actually be talking about the Waynes now, right?
I mean, she is legally Bruce's actual daughter now, isn't she?

And on the same subject, here is part of an interview that Newsarama had with Scott Snyder on Cass' role in Gates of Gotham,
Nrama: Let's talk about Gates of Gotham. We already discussed this book in detail with you and Kyle, but since that interview, it's been revealed at a convention that one of the guest stars in the book is Cassandra Cain. Does she play a big role?
Snyder: Yeah, Cassandra plays an important role in the story. She's not just a sidekick or anything. She has an emotional stake in solving the mystery that is central to the story.
Kyle and I are huge fans of her character, and the series was conceived with her as a part of it from the very beginning. She's not a character we threw in lightly at all, as someone to just be part of the cast for fun.
The story, in a lot of ways, is linked to what I'm trying to do in Detective and stories that will be upcoming in the Bat-world to. It all ties into how Gotham is an adversary to Batman and the Bat-family. To know Gotham is to know yourself, and Gates of Gotham is really about how you have to sort of understand Gotham's history to really have a chance to save it in the present. Its history is almost alive beneath the city in a figurative way.
So Cassandra, with her whole history and heritage, and who she's been not just in terms of the Bat-family itself, but in terms of her family history has tremendous ties to the history of Gotham and the mythology of the Bat. So she was an important character to use because of that. And we'll be using other characters whose families and whose stories date back through Gotham, like the Drakes and the Waynes and the Cobblepots and some of the other families that you associate with Gotham. We'll be exploring their historical links to it.
Nrama: So it's Cassandra in the present, investigating a crime of the past along with Dick and Tim?
Snyder: Yeah, Gates of Gotham is focused on a crime that is committed in the present that echoes a crime that was committed in the past, in the gilded age of Gotham. And the crime now, with the destruction of certain things in Gotham, is almost a calling card for Batman to begin to discover Gotham's dark and secret past and these terrible things that happened right around the time the skyline of Gotham was being formed.
For us, it's a story about legacy and heritage and the dark ways in which Gotham can shape who you are without you even knowing how.
From Here,
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/scott-snyder-joker-detective-finale-110427.html
Intially I was thinking upon reading this that "What? David Cain or Lady Shiva can from Gotham too?", but then I realised that when they're talking about Cass' family history... that might actually be talking about the Waynes now, right?
I mean, she is legally Bruce's actual daughter now, isn't she?
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Date: 2011-04-28 11:02 pm (UTC)-I mean, she is legally Bruce's actual daughter now, isn't she?-
Yep, at least according to Dick she is.
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Date: 2011-04-28 11:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-04-28 11:21 pm (UTC)Dick, Damian, Tim and Steph had all taken on new roles and identities and so needed a review (Though Bruce was something of a dick about it in most cases). Cass was being Cass (though not Batgirl) and performing whatever nebulous role she was expected to fill exactly as she had been expected to.
As you can see, my rose tinted rear-view glasses are working just fine!
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Date: 2011-04-28 11:39 pm (UTC)It should go down like this:
"Bruce, I need to leave Gotham for a while. It's.... personal."
"All right. You should let Stephanie use your costume while you're out of town."
"Okay."
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Date: 2011-04-29 12:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-04-29 04:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-04-29 08:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-04-29 12:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-04-29 02:40 am (UTC)"...that might actually be talking about the Waynes now, right?"
I don't know, in that case why bother with just Cass. Why not make it Damian or hell Tim as they are also Waynes now. He said it goes beyond that of the Waynes or even the Bat family...
...who she's been not just in terms of the Bat-family itself, but in terms of her family history has tremendous ties to the history of Gotham and the mythology of the Bat.
It's gotta be something from Cass' past that should make her so unique from the boys. I mean where the hell did David Cain come from? No one's mentioned that he's anything but a white guy nor that he has an accent when he talks, so I don't think he was born anywhere in Asia (or any other place for that matter). He's gotta be an American then. (I just never imagined him to be from Gotham City too...) As for Lady Shiva, we know she was from Detroit, so no big mystery there.
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Date: 2011-04-29 06:03 pm (UTC)Can't say I care for making the Cains yet another Old Money bunch of aristocrats that hae been shaping Gotham for two centuries.
What's next? "Oh, the Graysons built this in 1872, then decided to go into the circus business." "The Nigmas have been an enigmatic family since the founding of Gotham." "Amadeus Arkham was always arguing with his collegue, the noted Dr. Adam Quinzel." "HAHAHAHA!!! Of course I'm the heir to the Napier fortune, Batsy! How do you think I finance these stunts?"
WHERE DOES IT END?
Can't anyone be self made, any more?
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Date: 2011-04-29 08:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-04-29 08:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-04-30 03:27 pm (UTC)My dad did that with our name actually, and my dad was completely self made (had to be since his old man died before recognizing him as his son and his dad's family rejected him cuz of his dark skin). My dad grew up to be a carpenter and was responsible for building chruches in the city he grew up.
So...there's an idea!
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Date: 2011-04-29 08:47 pm (UTC)no subject
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