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Some pages from A+X #5, in which Kid Loki meets Mr. Sinister...



Mr. Sinister steals a sample of Loki's DNA from Dr. Doom's castle. As he's preparing to depart, however, Loki himself shows up. The Norse god claims he's the one who spread the information about the DNA sample's existence in the first place, in the hopes that someone would do the dirty work of stealing it for him.







They're interrupted by the arrival of Doom's genetically-engineered security forces out for both their heads. By teaming up, they're able to escape to the nearby nation of Symkaria, at which point their animosities resume:



Date: 2013-07-23 11:07 am (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Bwhahahaha!

Date: 2013-07-23 12:23 pm (UTC)
thosefew: bored death (Default)
From: [personal profile] thosefew
The first shown vial has a stopper with a rounded square lid, the one Loki returns has a octagonal lid. Might just be the art, but it might be a switcheroo.

Date: 2013-07-23 12:26 pm (UTC)
tugrul: That Chest (Default)
From: [personal profile] tugrul
So he wanted it out of Doom's hands but isn't worried about Mister Sinister accomplishing anything with it?

Or has he tricked Sinister into something that I am not comprehending?

Date: 2013-07-23 12:40 pm (UTC)
obsidianwolf: 3 of 3 Icons I never change (Default)
From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
It seems to be he's convinced that Doom could create a working Loki clone because he understands magic where as Sinister who completely rejects anything besides science would fail to produce a working Loki clone.

Date: 2013-07-23 12:49 pm (UTC)
nyadnar17: The Green Sign (Default)
From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
Exactly right. However I for one thing Loki is going to be in for a big surprise.

Date: 2013-07-23 12:53 pm (UTC)
obsidianwolf: 3 of 3 Icons I never change (Tom From Daria)
From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
I agree even if Sinister can't produce a working magic using clone. He can probably still do some very twisted dangerous things with Loki's DNA.

Date: 2013-07-23 01:12 pm (UTC)
tugrul: That Chest (Default)
From: [personal profile] tugrul
This is very exciting.

Date: 2013-07-23 02:21 pm (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
Would Loki really care? Twisted dangerous things are dime a dozen around his backyard in Asgard. As long as they don't horn in on his bailiwick a couple new ones that share some of his DNA probably don't really register much.

Mythological Loki was never too careful about spreading his DNA around anyway.

Date: 2013-07-23 02:33 pm (UTC)
obsidianwolf: 3 of 3 Icons I never change (Default)
From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
It would probably depend on who the twisted dangerous things were aimed at really. Aimed at things he doesn't care about or considers his enemies would probably make him happy.

However, if say Sinister was to do something like design a virus targeting his species that caused rapid mutation which could potentially end his life then he'd probably be against it.

Date: 2013-07-23 03:14 pm (UTC)
mishalak: A fantasy version of myself drawn by Sue Mason (Nice)
From: [personal profile] mishalak
True, but he will just have to burn that bridge when he comes to it. Checking up on Sinister, if he remembers, would be wise.

Date: 2013-07-23 05:17 pm (UTC)
bruinsfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Possibly, but that presupposes that gods are actually vulnerable to that sort of thing. Given that they can breathe (and speak!) in airless space and cross-breed with landscape features, their biology obviously doesn't entirely follow the natural laws that Sinister's efforts are going to be governed by.

Date: 2013-07-23 06:23 pm (UTC)
obsidianwolf: 3 of 3 Icons I never change (Default)
From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
Yeah if they were the gods of myth it would probably be a problem but the gods of Marvel have always shown to be far more mortal. In fact I can't recall any of the marvel gods cross breeding with natural elements.

The fact Reed could clone Thor for instance shows they have something like DNA that can be replicated. I mean 616 Thor's actually closer to a mythological god than any other resident of Asgard aside from Odin thanks to his mother being Gaea.

Date: 2013-07-23 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
Concerning how different from mortals Marvel gods are, even the gods aren't entirely sure. During a conversation with Captain America in a diner, Thor once wondered whether he would cease to exist if no one believed in him anymore.

"Clor" wasn't a very good copy of Thor. He was ax crazy, far weaker, and had to wield a (also inferior) tech-based knockoff of Mjolnir. Aside from the appearance, Clor was arguably a failure.

Date: 2013-07-23 08:09 pm (UTC)
obsidianwolf: 3 of 3 Icons I never change (Default)
From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
Not to mention how messy things like the Ragnarok cycle makes figuring out things.

Yeah Clone Thor wasn't perfect but his existence proves that Asgardians have something like DNA That can be manipulated with Marvel U science.

Date: 2013-07-23 10:48 pm (UTC)
full_metal_ox: A gold Chinese Metal Ox zodiac charm. (Default)
From: [personal profile] full_metal_ox
You realize that the creation of a mad-scientifically engineered smart-alecky eight-legged foal would serve everyone involved right.

Date: 2013-07-23 08:25 pm (UTC)
bruinsfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Typhon was the progeny of Gaea and Tartarus (Hell) and appeared as a villain in Incredible Hercules not that long ago, complete with reference to his parentage.

Aphrodite Ourania being born of the sea foam that Ouranos' severed junk was tossed into seems a more applicable case, though, not involving a largely disembodied elder goddess. Athena refering to her by that name would seem to indicate that particular origin myth is the true one for her in the Marvel universe.

Date: 2013-07-23 08:31 pm (UTC)
obsidianwolf: 3 of 3 Icons I never change (Default)
From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
Ah I completely forgot about how much more more myth accurate some of the Olympians are compared to the Asgardians.

Date: 2013-07-23 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
The High Evolutionary already cloned Thor, and in a fairly down-to-earth way (used hair and blood samples). Nobilus came out pretty much perfect--except for some anger issues, but that was thanks to Loki's meddling, not the cloning process.

Date: 2013-07-24 07:04 am (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
High Evolutionary is kinda the ultimate authority on the subject, though. His genetic tinkering made himself into something that can stand up to Galactus in single combat and not be instantly blown to smithereens.

Unless he sets a foot in a X-Men comic, that is.

Date: 2013-07-24 07:48 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
Sinister's a hack compared to the High Evolutionary (on his good lucid days anyway). Fortunately for Sinister the HE is usually content to stay on his mountain making furries.

Date: 2013-07-23 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] timefire
Kinda sorta not-quite-related, but the Mesopotamian goddess Inanna/Ishtar did get 'cloned' in one of her myths.

Interestingly enough, she does run on a 'the world is full of contradicting and paradoxical things and might actually doesn't make sense' metaphor, somewhat similar to Loki.

Date: 2013-07-23 02:22 pm (UTC)
mishalak: A fantasy version of myself drawn by Sue Mason (Nice)
From: [personal profile] mishalak
Okay, I am now going to try to think like Loki. Chaos, resentment, spite, mocking, large soda and mead... There, that was not so hard.

In the unlikely event that Nathaniel Sinister actually makes a copy of me, however unlikely, he will not understand it and it will be all to the good for the purposes of chaos and possibly something I can interfere with. "Doctor" Victor Von Doom (using that tone of voice does so torque him off) would have put up all sorts of tedious barriers to keep me from putting a hand in. Sinister will either end up working for me, unknowingly, or if not will still probably do all sorts of amusing things. So you are right, wonderful twisted dangerous things. </loki>

After all he is a god of chaos. And spite. Plus evil since he is no longer Kid Loki even if he looks like Kid Loki.

Date: 2013-07-23 03:18 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
After all he is a god of chaos. And spite. Plus evil since he is no longer Kid Loki even if he looks like Kid Loki.

except so far his motives have been noble, if in part selfish... he's either trying to immitate kid loki to prove kid loki wrong, or as some of the past issues have shown, the ghost of kid loki is still alive INSIDE him :D

Date: 2013-07-23 03:52 pm (UTC)
mishalak: A fantasy version of myself drawn by Sue Mason (Nice)
From: [personal profile] mishalak
I hope at some point there is a collection. Otherwise I am going to have to buy all sorts of random bits of titles. Damn their effective marketing through pushing my buttons!

Date: 2013-07-23 05:48 pm (UTC)
zabilac: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zabilac
I can see the ray of hope in your words. XD

Date: 2013-07-23 05:52 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (dead waynes shock)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
i am a certified blue lantern (even had a ring icon... but i ran out of room and it had to go :(

Date: 2013-07-23 06:30 pm (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
The Ghost of Kid Loki and the Ghost of Peter Parker should hang out sometime.

Date: 2013-07-23 08:40 pm (UTC)
seisachtheia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] seisachtheia
Oh dear lord, that would be terrible, or it would be amazing. Terribly amazing? Amazingly terrible?

Date: 2013-07-24 02:42 am (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
I support this adjective.

Date: 2013-07-23 02:40 pm (UTC)
theflames: The Joker best expression. (Default)
From: [personal profile] theflames
I reallfy like this iteration of Sinister, how did he become like this, y'know, all Victorian and stuff? It's quite a change from his original thing.

Also, this is real nice.

Date: 2013-07-23 02:44 pm (UTC)
obsidianwolf: 3 of 3 Icons I never change (Default)
From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
IIRC this Sinister is a back up copy of his personality that was buried inside Ms. Sinister and eventually took her over.

I think he's missing a chunk of memories relating to his previous life.

Edit: Just went and checked and there was nothing about him missing memories his buried personality has been body hoping and cloning himself like mad in recent years but seems to have just out of the blue adopted the Victorian thing.
Edited Date: 2013-07-23 02:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-07-23 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lonewolf23k
Well, Sinister was originally from the victorian age, so the style actually makes sense for him.

But I think we can all agree this a stylistic upgrade from his original design.

Date: 2013-07-23 03:02 pm (UTC)
obsidianwolf: 3 of 3 Icons I never change (Default)
From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
Yeah Victorian Vampire works so much better than psychotic mime in metal.

Honestly his current look reminds me of the episode of X-TAS where it was revealed Jack the Ripper was one of his creations and the killings were means of collecting samples.

edit:to strike through and to apologize for using the term psychotic for Sinister's mime look.

Edit 2: Forgot to actually apologize. I apologize for using a term for people suffering from real mental illness to describe how creepy a character looks.
Edited Date: 2013-07-23 03:14 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-07-23 06:19 pm (UTC)
theflames: The Joker best expression. (Default)
From: [personal profile] theflames
Despite the how clunky that sounds, if this is what we've ended up with, I'm happy :)

Date: 2013-07-23 03:17 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (Miguel)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
is it wrong to be aroused by this.... i mean i know he is Kid Loki.... but he's also old loki in kid loki.... ugh can i just pretend i am thinking of Hiddleson?

Date: 2013-07-23 06:07 pm (UTC)
skemono: I read dead racists (Default)
From: [personal profile] skemono
Yes, think of Hiddleston... and how Doom got a "DNA sample" from him...

Date: 2013-07-23 06:08 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
oh son of a ....

now i am envisioning scenarios involving the terms "RICHARRRRRDS!"
"DOOOOOOM!" and "LOKI'ed!"

Date: 2013-07-23 10:43 pm (UTC)
zechs80: (Mayuri)
From: [personal profile] zechs80
Well, there was that one time in that Dark Reign one-shot were Doom imagined Loki (when he took Sif's body) in slave-Leia gear holding onto Emma before Namor got his attention back to reality.

Date: 2013-07-24 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
Doom has some really weird and somewhat fetishistic power fantasies. I'm pretty sure he had a similar imagine spot starring Namor.

Date: 2013-07-23 06:18 pm (UTC)
beoweasel: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beoweasel
is it wrong to be aroused by this.... i mean i know he is Kid Loki....

Date: 2013-07-23 06:23 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
yeah i know. that's why i visualize Hiddleson. Honestly, in my head, the perfect Loki would be the personality of kid Loki (and even this Kid Loki, who technically isn't kid loki, but still IS kid loki) in the body of Tom hiddleson. nothing is more of a turn on for me than a clever mind. Q, Loki, the Doctor, Sherlock, Jack Harknesss (okay he's not clever, but LOOK AT HIM!)

Date: 2013-07-23 03:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] terrykun
I love that Sinister demands an apology for being called French, but not for the insinuation that Doom and Richards are smarter.

Date: 2013-07-23 05:21 pm (UTC)
bruinsfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Well, he is supposed to be from Victorian England, isn't he? Genius is usually misunderstood and unappreciated in its own lifetime, but some insults just can't be overlooked...

Date: 2013-07-24 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
In the time he was born and raised, calling an Englishman a Frenchman would be a dire insult (and vice versa).

Date: 2013-07-23 09:22 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I think the fact he replies in classic British Christmas panto mode (At some point in every pantomime someone will make a statment which more or less requires the entire audience to chorus "Oh no he isn't" back at them), says a lot.

Date: 2013-07-23 06:43 pm (UTC)
naebler: (Default)
From: [personal profile] naebler
So anyone else think this would be a perfect way for real KID LOKI to return? By the DNA a second body is made and as it is a "GODs" (tm) body it is absent of the godly essence. So since there are two of them... wouldn't one of the souls be attracted to the new body? Or am I in denial....

Date: 2013-07-23 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
Does Sinister still run a kingdom populated entirely by his own clones?

Date: 2013-07-23 08:07 pm (UTC)
obsidianwolf: 3 of 3 Icons I never change (Default)
From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
No they all got destroyed by the Phoenix 5. Sinister was just smart enough to have at least one copy of himself hidden in a body that was programed with a false personality so they couldn't sense it that would only wake up after the Phoenix was gone.

Date: 2013-07-23 10:04 pm (UTC)
terrykun: (don't listen)
From: [personal profile] terrykun
And then it killed and replaced Kate Kildare. :(

Date: 2013-07-24 01:02 am (UTC)
dr_archeville: Doctor Arkeville (Default)
From: [personal profile] dr_archeville
That is an AMAZING use of Dazzler's powers against a spellcaster. I love it!

Date: 2013-07-24 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
Ah, the Silence status effect. The bane of many spell-casters who don't waste inventory space/spell slots/feats to specifically deal with it. Too bad Loki didn't have any Echo Grass.

Still better than the way he was temporarily silenced in the myths. When he swindled his way out of being decapitated by dwarves on the grounds that they had won his head but not his neck, the dwarves simply sewed his mouth shut.

Date: 2013-07-24 07:47 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
He also uses cloned Cyclops eyeballs as bullets in his shotgun

Gillen's Sinister uses mutant powers better than the X-men

Date: 2013-07-25 09:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glprime
"I am made of things your philosophy will never comprehend."

....

....

.... *golf clap rising to opera house applause*

Oh that is good. That is very good. I must remember to use that sometime.

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